This column is being written on the eve of a much-publicized summit meeting of bishops from around the world whom Pope Francis has summoned to Rome to discuss the sex abuse scandal but will appear after it. No matter how that gathering turns out or what the media make of it, the thoughts that follow will stay the same.
A couple of weeks ago my parish’s weekly bulletin plugged a session titled “Why Stay Catholic?” Very likely many parishes around the country are having similar sessions as reports of Catholics leaving the Church multiply.
In a way, it’s hard to blame people who pack up and quit. The media pummeling over sex abuse that the Church has received for months—years, in fact—has taken its toll on morale, and the widely held perception that the authorities are dragging their feet on reforms certainly doesn’t help.
But quit the Church? No. Here are some reasons why not.
First, the Church in the United States has made enormous strides in owning up to the existence of this problem and doing something about it.
Yes, bishops of an earlier generation were calamitously slow in responding to the evil as it spread in the 1960s and 1970s. And yes, it took devastating media coverage of abuse and coverup to galvanize the hierarchy into adopting mandatory reforms 17 years ago. And yes again, the bishops have yet to adopt a system for holding bishops accountable. (They tried last November, but the Vatican said not yet.)
But the fact is that the system put in place in 2002 has worked. The names of abusers currently being released by dioceses throughout the country are ancient history, not current offenders. The 12 months ending June 30, 2017 brought only six verified allegations of newly occurring sexual abuse of a minor by a Catholic priest in the United States. Since four of these situations concerned the same individual, that means only three priests overall were involved.
On another front, the Pope’s action in removing ex-cardinal Theodore McCarrick from the priesthood in the face of his gross misdeeds was an obvious, necessary step. Still very much on the table, though, is who facilitated McCarrick’s rise to the heights of the hierarchy even though his perverse conduct was widely known, or at least rumored, in some clerical circles. Pope Francis has promised a scouring of the Vatican archives to find answers, which are likely to extend through the last three pontificates, including his own. The results of that investigation can hardly come too soon.
Meanwhile, the question of what role, if any, homosexuality in the clergy has played in the sex abuse scandal and other troubled areas of Church life cries out for examination. Publication of a book by a gay French journalist alleging a heavy homosexual presence within the Vatican itself underlines the need both here and in Rome for serious fact-finding, though certainly not a homophobic witch hunt.
In short, despite real progress in the United States in providing significant safeguards against future abuse of minors, the Church—in America, at the Vatican, and many other places—now faces an urgent challenge: to find fact-based answers to several pressing questions involving sex and the clergy and to adopt whatever new reforms the facts may dictate.
For some Catholics, this may be a reason to quit the Church. For others it is a reason to stay—and, in staying, to be part of the growing body of concerned, loyal Catholics lobbying for reform. My vote is with the latter group.
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Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen speaks during a press conference at the presidential office in Taipei on Dec. 27, 2022. / Photo by SAM YEH/AFP via Getty Images
Rome Newsroom, Jan 31, 2024 / 16:10 pm (CNA).
President of Taiwan Tsai Ing-wen sent a letter to Pope Francis on Wednesday joining the pontiff in calling for greater regulation of artificial intelligence, reaffirming what Ing-wen said was Taiwan’s commitment “to promote peace and improve the quality of life of all humanity.”
Noting that Taiwan “is eager to work with the international community to build a more stable society,” the Jan. 31 letter reflected on the country’s position as a “world leader in the semiconductor industry.”
“As the wave of AI sweeps across the world, Taiwan will continue in its endeavor to be a highly reliable, effective, and secure partner in the international community,” the president continued.
Taiwan is a vital player in the global development of AI. The growth in demand for accelerator chips produced by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the country’s largest company — and the world’s second-most-valuable semiconductor company — has helped fuel an economic rebound for the island, according to Bloomberg.
Investing and developing AI tools also plays a critical role in maintaining Taiwan’s national security apparatus amid growing threats of military intervention and economic sanctions from Beijing.
Tsai highlighted these themes and underscored the broader ethical considerations of developing emerging technologies in her letter to the pope.
“As Your Holiness has warned, the growing scope of AI applications and its implications for human values engender grave ethical risks, such as invasion of privacy, data manipulation, and illegal surveillance, which all have serious consequences for free and democratic societies,” she wrote.
“For Taiwan, as for other democracies, one major challenge has been disinformation campaigns,” the president continued. “Taiwan will deepen cooperation with the Holy See across many areas as we work toward exercising good technological governance, maintaining social harmony and stability, and jointly creating a peaceful future for humanity.”
Tsai sent the letter in response to the pope’s message marking the 57th World Day of Peace, a celebration that is observed by the Catholic Church on Jan. 1, the solemnity of Mary, Mother of God.
The pope’s message for the 2024 World Day of Peace was titled “Artificial Intelligence and Peace.” In it, the pontiff called on policymakers and international stakeholders to direct the development of AI toward “the pursuit of peace and the common good.”
The pope in his Dec. 14 letter underscored the risks posed by AI with its usage in automated warfare as well as the bias it can effect when used in the job hiring process, mortgage applications, and even criminal recidivism. These “systemic errors can easily multiply,” the pope argued.
The Holy Father stressed that AI is a supplemental technology as it can only “imitate or reproduce certain functions of human intelligence,” adding that “the unique human capacity for moral judgment and ethical decision-making is more than a complex collection of algorithms, and that capacity cannot be reduced to programming a machine, which as ‘intelligent’ as it may be, remains a machine.”
The ethical regulation and orientation of AI for the common good has been a common theme of Francis’ pontificate in recent years. In a Feb. 20, 2023, audience with the Pontifical Academy for Life, the pope urged the academy to study emerging technologies in order to “ensure that scientific and technological growth is reconciled more and more with a parallel development … in responsibility, values, and conscience.”
The Holy See is a vital diplomatic partner for Taipei as it is the only sovereign European entity that maintains diplomatic relations with the democratically governed island.
Formal diplomatic relations between the Republic of China (ROC) and the Holy See were officially established in 1942. However, following the end of the Chinese Civil War in 1949 and the establishment of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), the government of the Republic of China relocated to the island of Taiwan, which sits 110 miles off mainland China’s Southeastern coast. The Holy See, at present, does not maintain official diplomatic relations with the PRC.
Taiwan, or the Republic of China, currently maintains diplomatic relations with 12 states after the Pacific island nation of Narua severed relations on Jan. 15, two days after presidential elections in Taiwan, which saw the election of Lai Ching-te, the current vice president and staunch advocate for Taiwanese sovereignty.
Pope Francis interacted with an energetic crowd of 65,000 young adults and catechists at Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, on Feb. 2, 2023. / Vatican Media
Rome Newsroom, Feb 2, 2023 / 05:45 am (CNA).
To bring about peace, “prayer is the most powerful weapon there is,” Pope Francis told thousands of young adults and catechism teachers in the Democratic Republic of Congo on Thursday.
The meeting in Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, the capital city of the DRC, took place on Feb. 2, the third day of the pope’s visit to the central African country. On Feb. 3, Francis will fly to Juba, South Sudan, for the second leg of his peace pilgrimage.
Pope Francis on Thursday interacted with an enthusiastic crowd of about 65,000 young people and adults, some of whom traveled days to be present for the papal visit.
Pope Francis interacted with an energetic crowd of 65,000 young adults and catechists at Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, on Feb. 2, 2023. Vatican Media
“Yes, prayer conquers fear and enables us to take our future into our hands. Do you believe this?” the pope said. “Do you want to make prayer your secret, as refreshing water for the soul, as the one weapon you carry, as a traveling companion on each day’s journey?”
During the second half of his speech, the pope was repeatedly drowned out by the energetic audience, which broke out in cheering, singing, and dancing despite the hot weather.
Pope Francis interacted with an energetic crowd of 65,000 young adults and catechists at Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, on Feb. 2, 2023. Vatican Media
In his talk, Francis used the imagery of the hand to speak about the future of the DRC.
“God has placed the gift of life, the future of society and the future of this great country in those hands of yours,” he said.
“Dear brother, dear sister, do your hands not seem small and frail, empty and unsuited to so great a task? It’s true,” he said. “Let me tell you something: your hands all look alike, they all look alike, but none of them is exactly the same. No one has hands just like yours, and that is a sign that you are a unique treasure, an unrepeatable and incomparable treasure.”
He invited those present in the stadium to open and close their hands while meditating on whether they wanted to choose peace or violence.
Pope Francis interacted with an energetic crowd of 65,000 young adults and catechists at Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, on Feb. 2, 2023. Vatican Media
“Notice how you can squeeze your hand, closing it to make a fist. Or you can open it, to offer it to God and to others,” he said.
“You who dream of a different future: from your hands, tomorrow can be born, tomorrow can be born from your hands, from your hands peace so lacking in this country can at last come about.”
Bishop Donatien Bafuidinsoni Maloko-Mana from the Diocese of Inongo, in western DRC, was at the meeting.
He told EWTN News that people from his diocese traveled in boats on the Congo River for two to four days to arrive in Kinshasa.
Bafuidinsoni said the Congolese people were disappointed last year when the pope’s visit was canceled, but “now that the pope is here it’s a big joy for us all.”
Even those who are following the trip from home “are really happy,” he added. “It’s a message of joy, of peace, and of hope for all.”
Sister Asterie Neema, 29, is from Rutshuru in eastern DRC, where her brother was brutally killed last year. Elias Turk/CNA
Sister Asterie Neema, 29, is from Rutshuru in eastern Congo, where, she told EWTN News, they are under the control of an armed group called M23.
Neema said her older brother was killed in 2022 by unidentified rebels in front of his 12- and 7-year-old children.
In her 29 years of life, she said, her region of the DRC has never seen peace. Neema added that she has forgiven her brother’s killers, but she hopes for peace in her country.
Not everyone in the audience was Catholic. Two young Muslim men also attended the youth gathering with Pope Francis.
Yassine Mumbere, from Butembo in eastern DRC, told EWTN News that he came to the event because all young people were invited. He also studied at a Catholic school.
Muslim Yassine Mumbere, 35, from Butembo in eastern Congo, (R) with his friend (L) at the youth gathering with Pope Francis in Kinshasa, DRC on Feb. 2, 2023. Elias Turk/CNA
The 35-year-old Muslim Scout leader said he hopes the pope’s trip will help bring peace to the DRC’s eastern region.
In his speech, Pope Francis encouraged those present to be careful of the temptation to point fingers at people, or to exclude others because of “regionalism, tribalism, or anything that makes you feel secure in your own group, but at the same time is unconcerned with the life of the community.”
“You know what happens: first, you believe in prejudices about others, then you justify hatred, then violence, and in the end, you find yourself in the middle of a war,” he said.
To create a concrete sign of community, Francis invited the crowd to hold hands with those beside them and to sing a song together: “Imagine yourselves as one Church, a single people, holding hands.”
Pope Francis interacted with an energetic crowd of 65,000 young adults and catechists at Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, on Feb. 2, 2023. Vatican Media
“Yes, brother and sister, you are indispensable and you are responsible for your Church and for your country,” he said after the song. “You are part of a greater history, one that calls you to take an active role as a builder of communion, a champion of fraternity, an indomitable dreamer of a more united world.”
After Pope Francis spoke against corruption — inviting everyone to shout together, “Go away, corruption!” — the stadium broke out in loud singing and cheering.
The event’s emcee had to invite the crowd to quiet down before the pope could continue speaking.
Francis also drew attention to two Congolese martyrs and their examples of faith: Blessed Isidore Bakanja and Blessed Marie-Clémentine Anuarite.
Statues of Blessed Isidore Bakanja and Blessed Marie-Clémentine Anuarite, young Congolese martyrs beatified by Pope John Paul II, in Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, DRC, on Feb. 2, 2023. Elias Turk/CNA
Blessed Marie-Clémentine Anuarite, a member of the Sisters of the Holy Family, was killed during the civil war in 1964 at the age of 24. Anuarite was beatified by Pope John Paul II during his visit to the DRC, then known as the Republic of Zaire, in 1985.
Blessed Isidore Bakanja was a Catholic convert at the age of 18. He became a catechist and was devoted to Our Lady of Mount Carmel. He died in 1909, around the age of 21 or 22, after succumbing to an infection caused by a beating and other torture he received at the hands of a European manager for refusing to remove his brown scapular at work. Bakanja was beatified in 1994 by Pope John Paul II.
Statues of the two blesseds were present at the youth meeting, where people in the crowd shouted and held signs asking the pope to make them “santi subito!”
The pope pointed to another example of virtue from the DRC, Floribert Bwana Chui, who was killed in 2007 in Goma.
The 26-year-old man, who worked as a customs manager, was killed for refusing to cooperate with corruption; specifically, he did not allow the passage of expired food products.
A spectator at Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, DRC, on Feb. 2, 2023, holds a sign with the phrase “santi subito” in reference to two Congolese blesseds. Elias Turk/CNA
“He could easily have turned a blind eye; nobody would have found out, and he might even have gotten ahead as a result,” Francis said. “But, since he was a Christian, he prayed. He thought of others and he chose to be honest, saying no to the filth of corruption.”
“Now I want to tell you something important,” he added. “Listen closely: If someone offers you a bribe, or promises you favors and lots of money, do not fall into the trap. Do not be deceived; do not be sucked into the swamp of evil. Do not be overcome by evil!”
Pope Francis speaks from the window of the Apostolic Palace on a rainy Sunday in Rome on Feb. 11, 2024. / Credit: Vatican Media
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4 things:
1. I remain a faithful Catholic, assenting to all of the Scripture, Tradition, Creed, and Catechism up through the 2013 Conclave for Homosexual Apostasy.
2. I know that Pope Francis and “his teammates” do not share the Catholic faith, and they have said and done plenty in their long public lives to prove their infidelity, including harboring fiendish unrepentant abusers, and persecuting the innocent ofvThe Lord, as they did to the priests and sisters of the Franciscan Friars of The Immaculate (FFI), and now do to the Little Sisters of Mary Mother of the Redeemer.
3. I recognize that the objective of Francis and his team is to destroy the Catholic faith, and as such they are the enemies of my wife and children and family and Catholic friends and faithful everywhere.
4. I will fast and pray as commanded by Jesus, that the evil spirits oppressing The Church of The McCarrick Establishment will be driven out.
Last summer, Pope Francis asked that McCarrick live a life of prayer and penance until a thorough investigation of allegations against him took place. He took residence at St. Fidelis Friary in Victoria beginning on September 28, 2018. Mr. McCarrick will continue to reside at the St. Fidelis Friary in Victoria until a decision of permanent residence is finalized.
My question, since the church says it isn’t supporting his living expenses, who is paying!? The Friary? If my husband was found quilts of fondling children he would be in prison! This is wrong, totally unacceptable.
I was part of Sisters Minor of mary immaculate and this order under patrizi was abuseive and neglectful of her sisters. I was refused medical attention forced by patrizi to leave the hospital. I was physically mentally spiritually abuse I witness abuse and neglect of other sisters in the order which gave me no choice but to leave. She even helped cover up priest abuse and tolerated and allowed sexual assault of her sisters by other sisters in the order by having a closed meeting with church official Alcoholism was tolerated and patrizi would put unfit superiors into authority torturing sisters and breaking thier spirits, souls, bodies and minds down, so as to make them submissive to do evil things. severe punishments were given, like beating, starving and imprisonment.
Medical attention or going against doctor wishes was perpetrated by Patrizi Kovacs and other sisters were superiors. There was no charity and most of us sisters lived in fear not of God but of Patrizi and Kovacs. For some reason or other the church allowed this for years because of her family name Patrizi which is tied to the Vatican. I have reported the abuse I suffered at the hands of Patrizi and Kovacs to my diocese so they know. They knew since 2003 under administration of bishop Dupre There was racism in the order where an African American sister would be called a black dog frequently by her superior. She left. Other sisters were stuck in countries because thier visas ran out and one particular sister was stuck in Italy.
There was a death of an Italian sister who was imprisoned and not allowed to see her family she did not get medical attention and she had lung cancer. Another sister who was Polish was put in an institution against her will she called me for help. Another sister nearly died because she was bleeding internally she is American and if it was not for her doctor she would not be here today. October 4 2014 a document from the Vatican was addressing patrizi that the order she founded and other orders she started were abusive and she no longer allowed to find another order. The Vatican disbanded the order as away to avoid accountability and responsibility of the abuse committed
A survivor who was a minor reported this Hey, I was held hostage by them 23 years ago in Connecticut when I was invited to go on a retreat before going off to school in Europe. I was a devout Catholic, but had no intention of becoming a nun. I was 17 years old. She tricked me into believing it would just be a safe way for me to see the East Coast. It was maybe a month or week before 09/11/2001. Theresa held me longer than the week I was supposed to be there, kept canceling my flight and would come into my room every night telling me that no man would ever want me and I am not marriage material. She would badger me about the littletist things, complain my skirts were too short, withold food, would not allow me to read, no air condition except for in Church. There was an Italian girl visiting who was allowed to do what she wanted and Theresa would constantly compare me to her. My mother finally threatened to call the police and I think Theresa took me to my new scheduled flight. I completely forgot about it and was able to attend the school I was supposed to in France a few months later. I think it was a few weeks before 09/11 when this all happened and I often wonder if she had kept me longer, if I would have ended up on one of the planes. I just found out how this has all come to light. I just googled it to see if this order still existed. I completely blocked that negative experience out of my life.
Chris, we share your sentiments, Also, we will contribute only to lay groups active in this restoration.struggle. Church leadership will remain obedient to Francis.
Mike Aquilina’s book Good Pope, Bad Pope is a good read in these difficult times, to remind us that the Catholic Church has had pretty horrific Popes in the past and still survived. While good Popes help strengthen the faith, ultimately what keeps the Church going is Jesus Christ.
Amen Johan, Jesus Christ is the Head of the Body of Christ, the pope merely his steward. The faithful steward is a blessing to the Church; the unfaithful as like the one sitting now is a bitter curse.
This is not just another case of a bad man occupying the Chair. For all I know, Francis could be an Eagle Scout. The problem is that he uses his office to promote a false gospel. I don’t know what the solution is, but we must stop telling ourselves that this is the same old problem that we’ve had before. It isn’t.
I totally agree! We don’t go to Church because of the priests, we go there because that is God’s house and where we are fed by Christ. I am confident that Christ will once again clean out His house, remembering that not all priests are evil; the majority are good, holy men of God. Those Catholics who leave the Church are just using this as an excuse to abandon their faith. Such a pity.
They go only when they are resisted. Those now in the Vatican seeking the destruction of all that is holy and beautiful of the RCC will not retire quietly. But you know that, Cajetan. Francis plays for keeps. His successor is already in-processing. Bet on it.
Chris in Maryland, I too agree with your comments. For me a sad day. But also a joyful day, knowing Jesus will never leave his Church, and knowing we in turn will cling to him.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Josh 24:15
“But the fact is that the system put in place in 2002 has worked. . . ”
I’ve admired Mr. Shaw for years, but I must point out why the above statement is “true”:
It’s true because now-Mr. McCarrick engineered that “system” to exclude himself and his fellow prelates from any accountability. Forever.
And it’s not only “bishops of an earlier generation” who were, and are, the problem. Many bishops sitting today have been accused, as they were reminded last November in the USCCB meeting that Cardinal Cupich successfully shut down. Where’s the justice? Why are they exempt?
Let’s “move on,” and avoid the “Rabbit Hole” (which is actually the Memory Hole)?
We cannot successfully “move forward” without “looking backward” – with the cold eye of truth, transparency, accountability, and justice.
Many Prelates are undoubtedly opposed to that necessity. They are in denial, but their number is apparently legion, both here and abroad, and concentrated in the Vatican.
Because the USCCB wants to act “united,” this faction’s objection to transparency, accountability, and justice will prevail. They will never allow a full and honest investigation of anything.
The rot will remain.
I’ll tell you why I’m staying in the Church: because it’s the only Church founded by Christ to save sinners, and I’m one.
As far as our sellout bishops? I am fond of the observation of Professor Peter Kreeft:
“Judas was the first bishop to take a government grant.”
There is one and only one reason to be Catholic: The Catholic Faith is true.
No where in this article does Shaw even mention truth. Attempting to justify staying based on the actions of men is absurd. Obviously, Shaw spent too many years as a spin doctor for the NCCB.
I remain in the Church, just not in the Novus Ordo Liberal Modernist Church of Vatican 2 . In 1997 we left our local parish and went to Detroit to the nearest SSPX Chapel and have never looked back. 22 years and still there. Maybe Rome will return to the Church sometime soon. One can only hope.
Russell, the archbishop of St. Louis is retiring soon, he who reportedly advised chancery officials in trials in abuse cases in St. Cloud diocese to just say “I don’t remember” regardless the question. He also used that response himself in depositions for cases in Minneapolis. Before the Vatican simply announces who our new one is to be, do Catholics in St. Louis have any channels to demand that the announcement of the new archbishop comes with a full report on any and all dealings with clergy abuse or sexual scandals, in fact any cases of criminal acts by anyone he had authority over, as well as sworn testimony from him about when he first heard anything about the notorious activities of exCardinal McCarrick. Do we have a right under canon law to demand a full account from the Vatican on what they know about the man who may head our archdiocese for years to come?
The short answer is no. The process is under Pontifical Secret within the control of the Church establishment which makes the inquiries, not the other way around. The laity–indeed anyone outside the candidate in question, including clergy or prelates who are not part of the vetting process–have no say in the matter. Now if there were an Episcopal or Lutheran setting, that might be a different story.
I agree with much of what Mr. Shaw has written. There are problems in our Church which immediately and efficiently must be addressed. I will never leave my faith; there are too many reasons and people why I won’t. Unfortunately, many others can only look at the bad and rely on that for a reason to miss the beauty and strength of the Catholic church.
No, the church in the west has not made enormous stride against clergy sex abuse sir and the summit by Pope Francis was evasive and finger-pointing, give me a break. Pope Francis put some of the blame on families. Church heirachy has a moral obligation to protect its children and the church heirachy are not taking very seriously the sex abuse of children. They must (seriously) cleanse the church of homosexuals and molesters now.
We stay in the Church in order to have confident access to the sacraments. Providentially, we can draw from our history of a millennium and a half ago…
Back then the Donatists heresy flourished in North Africa. The Donatists held that clerics who had caved to (torturous) persecution had lost their sacramental role, and that their celebration of the sacraments was not valid.
The Donatists persisted from the middle of the 4th century in St. Augustine’s time, and then lingered until the 8th century when Islam swept across all of North Africa and all of the-some 250 bishoprics in North Africa disappeared altogether. (Sound modern?)
The Donatist tactic was to establish parallel diocese within most of the Catholic dioceses. (Again, modern?) Of this general period one fairly recent Islamic apologist (Maulani Muhammed Ali, 1924) reported: “In short, Christianity—last of the revealed religions of the world—was practically defunct. It had lost all driving force towards moral reform.” (Again, modern?)
Along the way Donatism was refuted, and mostly suppressed, largely with the help of the disintegrating Roman Empire. The upshot is that regardless of clerical apostasies, the ordinations remain intact and the sacraments received from even betraying hands remain valid. (The silver lining for today.)
THIS is the reason for remaining in the Catholic Church. It’s about reliable access to the sacramental REAL PRESENCE (CCC 1374: “body and blood, [AND] soul and divinity”). We are free to indwell (always today) the divine interior life of the Trinity, just as that divine life comes to indwell each of us.
So, the gates of hell—-moral gangrene, the smoke of Satan, clericalist evasion and double-speak-—will not prevail.
In the meantime while we in the pews wait for a resolution to the Church’s homosexualist issues and for a time when we can face a confessor with a lot more confidence of his orthodoxy and being straight, we’re still left with what seems like a political civil war split with the hierarchy clearly on the extreme left of us, while at the same time burning more and more incense including talk of “unleashing the gospel” of course the NAB version
The foundation of the church is still the same even if the current institution leadership (Pope, Cardinals, Bishops) looks corrupt and unable to examine its conscious in a full and meaningful way to get to the root of the problems. Ignoring an examination of homosexuality impact on the abuse crisis (both minors and seminarians). Ignoring accountability for past decisions of leadership that let the abuse fester and grow. Many in leadership do not want to hurt any feelings it appears.
Thanks, Charles. But I recall being told by good source that so-called priests councils are sometimes extensively consulted but they also must pledge secrecy. Didn’t mean to imply I was asking from Lutheran or Anglican bias. Jim
I’m wondering exactly what the author Russell Shaw means by a “homosexual witch-hunt”. Does he think unrepentant and practicing homosexuals should remain in the priesthood?
Fred, this is what is meant by “homosexual witch-hunt”. Assume by some miracle you were declared to be the Pope starting tomorrow. How exactly, Pope Fred, would you go about identifying and eliminating homosexuals from the clergy?
Yes our very spiritual life depends on the sacraments. Keep your money and gripe all you want but if you stay away from the sacraments you are just killing yourself. Is your charity (love of God) that strong that you do not need this source of grace He gave us? This is a temptation of the devil to lead you away from the true Church. Stay with your parish and start a Eucharistic Adoration chapel and be the most fervent one to use it.
M. Virginia
Catholic means universal and in my personal view could be used to broaden the meaning of the word Church to include the Eastern Orthodox founded by t Apostles in Antioch AD 37 and have Apostolic succession while their Sacraments are recognized as valid and hold on to tradition for dear life with a recognition of the Pope as first in honor only and all bishops as equal, that is to say they recognize the Pope in all but the Juridical power he has claimed for himself and so in essence there is another valid and worthy path to follow Christ even more fully as the early Christians did where most Churches were independent relying solely on local bishops. They are of course not without their own problems which usually are matters of geographical differences, Patriarchal squabbles involving power but not so much juridical power as changes in the Eastern Churches can only be made by agreement of all the bishops and patriarchs accepting and ratifying same and with each country or group of countries being autonomous there are no where near the problems found in the West with modernity and radical trashing of traditions via Vat. II being the most obvious along with the sexual scandals that followed with the 60 s sexual revolutions. Bottom line is you can make a change and still be Catholic, traditional and with valid Sacraments without the corruption and scandals that come from abuse of power so dominating the Western Church.
4 things:
1. I remain a faithful Catholic, assenting to all of the Scripture, Tradition, Creed, and Catechism up through the 2013 Conclave for Homosexual Apostasy.
2. I know that Pope Francis and “his teammates” do not share the Catholic faith, and they have said and done plenty in their long public lives to prove their infidelity, including harboring fiendish unrepentant abusers, and persecuting the innocent ofvThe Lord, as they did to the priests and sisters of the Franciscan Friars of The Immaculate (FFI), and now do to the Little Sisters of Mary Mother of the Redeemer.
3. I recognize that the objective of Francis and his team is to destroy the Catholic faith, and as such they are the enemies of my wife and children and family and Catholic friends and faithful everywhere.
4. I will fast and pray as commanded by Jesus, that the evil spirits oppressing The Church of The McCarrick Establishment will be driven out.
Last summer, Pope Francis asked that McCarrick live a life of prayer and penance until a thorough investigation of allegations against him took place. He took residence at St. Fidelis Friary in Victoria beginning on September 28, 2018. Mr. McCarrick will continue to reside at the St. Fidelis Friary in Victoria until a decision of permanent residence is finalized.
My question, since the church says it isn’t supporting his living expenses, who is paying!? The Friary? If my husband was found quilts of fondling children he would be in prison! This is wrong, totally unacceptable.
I was part of Sisters Minor of mary immaculate and this order under patrizi was abuseive and neglectful of her sisters. I was refused medical attention forced by patrizi to leave the hospital. I was physically mentally spiritually abuse I witness abuse and neglect of other sisters in the order which gave me no choice but to leave. She even helped cover up priest abuse and tolerated and allowed sexual assault of her sisters by other sisters in the order by having a closed meeting with church official Alcoholism was tolerated and patrizi would put unfit superiors into authority torturing sisters and breaking thier spirits, souls, bodies and minds down, so as to make them submissive to do evil things. severe punishments were given, like beating, starving and imprisonment.
Medical attention or going against doctor wishes was perpetrated by Patrizi Kovacs and other sisters were superiors. There was no charity and most of us sisters lived in fear not of God but of Patrizi and Kovacs. For some reason or other the church allowed this for years because of her family name Patrizi which is tied to the Vatican. I have reported the abuse I suffered at the hands of Patrizi and Kovacs to my diocese so they know. They knew since 2003 under administration of bishop Dupre There was racism in the order where an African American sister would be called a black dog frequently by her superior. She left. Other sisters were stuck in countries because thier visas ran out and one particular sister was stuck in Italy.
There was a death of an Italian sister who was imprisoned and not allowed to see her family she did not get medical attention and she had lung cancer. Another sister who was Polish was put in an institution against her will she called me for help. Another sister nearly died because she was bleeding internally she is American and if it was not for her doctor she would not be here today. October 4 2014 a document from the Vatican was addressing patrizi that the order she founded and other orders she started were abusive and she no longer allowed to find another order. The Vatican disbanded the order as away to avoid accountability and responsibility of the abuse committed
A survivor who was a minor reported this Hey, I was held hostage by them 23 years ago in Connecticut when I was invited to go on a retreat before going off to school in Europe. I was a devout Catholic, but had no intention of becoming a nun. I was 17 years old. She tricked me into believing it would just be a safe way for me to see the East Coast. It was maybe a month or week before 09/11/2001. Theresa held me longer than the week I was supposed to be there, kept canceling my flight and would come into my room every night telling me that no man would ever want me and I am not marriage material. She would badger me about the littletist things, complain my skirts were too short, withold food, would not allow me to read, no air condition except for in Church. There was an Italian girl visiting who was allowed to do what she wanted and Theresa would constantly compare me to her. My mother finally threatened to call the police and I think Theresa took me to my new scheduled flight. I completely forgot about it and was able to attend the school I was supposed to in France a few months later. I think it was a few weeks before 09/11 when this all happened and I often wonder if she had kept me longer, if I would have ended up on one of the planes. I just found out how this has all come to light. I just googled it to see if this order still existed. I completely blocked that negative experience out of my life.
Excellent comments Chris. The day is coming soon when these abominations will all become manifest. Jesus will not be mocked.
Chris, we share your sentiments, Also, we will contribute only to lay groups active in this restoration.struggle. Church leadership will remain obedient to Francis.
Mike Aquilina’s book Good Pope, Bad Pope is a good read in these difficult times, to remind us that the Catholic Church has had pretty horrific Popes in the past and still survived. While good Popes help strengthen the faith, ultimately what keeps the Church going is Jesus Christ.
Amen Johan, Jesus Christ is the Head of the Body of Christ, the pope merely his steward. The faithful steward is a blessing to the Church; the unfaithful as like the one sitting now is a bitter curse.
I’ve got that. Must read it sometime.
This is not just another case of a bad man occupying the Chair. For all I know, Francis could be an Eagle Scout. The problem is that he uses his office to promote a false gospel. I don’t know what the solution is, but we must stop telling ourselves that this is the same old problem that we’ve had before. It isn’t.
I totally agree! We don’t go to Church because of the priests, we go there because that is God’s house and where we are fed by Christ. I am confident that Christ will once again clean out His house, remembering that not all priests are evil; the majority are good, holy men of God. Those Catholics who leave the Church are just using this as an excuse to abandon their faith. Such a pity.
Be steadfast. Problems lack stamina. Problems come and problems go.
They go only when they are resisted. Those now in the Vatican seeking the destruction of all that is holy and beautiful of the RCC will not retire quietly. But you know that, Cajetan. Francis plays for keeps. His successor is already in-processing. Bet on it.
Chris in Maryland, I too agree with your comments. For me a sad day. But also a joyful day, knowing Jesus will never leave his Church, and knowing we in turn will cling to him.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Josh 24:15
“But the fact is that the system put in place in 2002 has worked. . . ”
I’ve admired Mr. Shaw for years, but I must point out why the above statement is “true”:
It’s true because now-Mr. McCarrick engineered that “system” to exclude himself and his fellow prelates from any accountability. Forever.
And it’s not only “bishops of an earlier generation” who were, and are, the problem. Many bishops sitting today have been accused, as they were reminded last November in the USCCB meeting that Cardinal Cupich successfully shut down. Where’s the justice? Why are they exempt?
Let’s “move on,” and avoid the “Rabbit Hole” (which is actually the Memory Hole)?
We cannot successfully “move forward” without “looking backward” – with the cold eye of truth, transparency, accountability, and justice.
Many Prelates are undoubtedly opposed to that necessity. They are in denial, but their number is apparently legion, both here and abroad, and concentrated in the Vatican.
Because the USCCB wants to act “united,” this faction’s objection to transparency, accountability, and justice will prevail. They will never allow a full and honest investigation of anything.
The rot will remain.
I’ll tell you why I’m staying in the Church: because it’s the only Church founded by Christ to save sinners, and I’m one.
As far as our sellout bishops? I am fond of the observation of Professor Peter Kreeft:
“Judas was the first bishop to take a government grant.”
Pray for Holy Mother Church and her wayward sons.
This article is a complete fail.
There is one and only one reason to be Catholic: The Catholic Faith is true.
No where in this article does Shaw even mention truth. Attempting to justify staying based on the actions of men is absurd. Obviously, Shaw spent too many years as a spin doctor for the NCCB.
You make a very good point. “Lord, to whom should we go?” John 6:68. Not a word about it.
I remain in the Church, just not in the Novus Ordo Liberal Modernist Church of Vatican 2 . In 1997 we left our local parish and went to Detroit to the nearest SSPX Chapel and have never looked back. 22 years and still there. Maybe Rome will return to the Church sometime soon. One can only hope.
Russell, the archbishop of St. Louis is retiring soon, he who reportedly advised chancery officials in trials in abuse cases in St. Cloud diocese to just say “I don’t remember” regardless the question. He also used that response himself in depositions for cases in Minneapolis. Before the Vatican simply announces who our new one is to be, do Catholics in St. Louis have any channels to demand that the announcement of the new archbishop comes with a full report on any and all dealings with clergy abuse or sexual scandals, in fact any cases of criminal acts by anyone he had authority over, as well as sworn testimony from him about when he first heard anything about the notorious activities of exCardinal McCarrick. Do we have a right under canon law to demand a full account from the Vatican on what they know about the man who may head our archdiocese for years to come?
The short answer is no. The process is under Pontifical Secret within the control of the Church establishment which makes the inquiries, not the other way around. The laity–indeed anyone outside the candidate in question, including clergy or prelates who are not part of the vetting process–have no say in the matter. Now if there were an Episcopal or Lutheran setting, that might be a different story.
I agree with much of what Mr. Shaw has written. There are problems in our Church which immediately and efficiently must be addressed. I will never leave my faith; there are too many reasons and people why I won’t. Unfortunately, many others can only look at the bad and rely on that for a reason to miss the beauty and strength of the Catholic church.
No, the church in the west has not made enormous stride against clergy sex abuse sir and the summit by Pope Francis was evasive and finger-pointing, give me a break. Pope Francis put some of the blame on families. Church heirachy has a moral obligation to protect its children and the church heirachy are not taking very seriously the sex abuse of children. They must (seriously) cleanse the church of homosexuals and molesters now.
We stay in the Church in order to have confident access to the sacraments. Providentially, we can draw from our history of a millennium and a half ago…
Back then the Donatists heresy flourished in North Africa. The Donatists held that clerics who had caved to (torturous) persecution had lost their sacramental role, and that their celebration of the sacraments was not valid.
The Donatists persisted from the middle of the 4th century in St. Augustine’s time, and then lingered until the 8th century when Islam swept across all of North Africa and all of the-some 250 bishoprics in North Africa disappeared altogether. (Sound modern?)
The Donatist tactic was to establish parallel diocese within most of the Catholic dioceses. (Again, modern?) Of this general period one fairly recent Islamic apologist (Maulani Muhammed Ali, 1924) reported: “In short, Christianity—last of the revealed religions of the world—was practically defunct. It had lost all driving force towards moral reform.” (Again, modern?)
Along the way Donatism was refuted, and mostly suppressed, largely with the help of the disintegrating Roman Empire. The upshot is that regardless of clerical apostasies, the ordinations remain intact and the sacraments received from even betraying hands remain valid. (The silver lining for today.)
THIS is the reason for remaining in the Catholic Church. It’s about reliable access to the sacramental REAL PRESENCE (CCC 1374: “body and blood, [AND] soul and divinity”). We are free to indwell (always today) the divine interior life of the Trinity, just as that divine life comes to indwell each of us.
So, the gates of hell—-moral gangrene, the smoke of Satan, clericalist evasion and double-speak-—will not prevail.
In the meantime while we in the pews wait for a resolution to the Church’s homosexualist issues and for a time when we can face a confessor with a lot more confidence of his orthodoxy and being straight, we’re still left with what seems like a political civil war split with the hierarchy clearly on the extreme left of us, while at the same time burning more and more incense including talk of “unleashing the gospel” of course the NAB version
The foundation of the church is still the same even if the current institution leadership (Pope, Cardinals, Bishops) looks corrupt and unable to examine its conscious in a full and meaningful way to get to the root of the problems. Ignoring an examination of homosexuality impact on the abuse crisis (both minors and seminarians). Ignoring accountability for past decisions of leadership that let the abuse fester and grow. Many in leadership do not want to hurt any feelings it appears.
Thanks, Charles. But I recall being told by good source that so-called priests councils are sometimes extensively consulted but they also must pledge secrecy. Didn’t mean to imply I was asking from Lutheran or Anglican bias. Jim
I’m wondering exactly what the author Russell Shaw means by a “homosexual witch-hunt”. Does he think unrepentant and practicing homosexuals should remain in the priesthood?
Fred, this is what is meant by “homosexual witch-hunt”. Assume by some miracle you were declared to be the Pope starting tomorrow. How exactly, Pope Fred, would you go about identifying and eliminating homosexuals from the clergy?
Neither identifying them nor eliminating them would be particularly difficult. The problem is a lack of will to do the right thing.
Yes our very spiritual life depends on the sacraments. Keep your money and gripe all you want but if you stay away from the sacraments you are just killing yourself. Is your charity (love of God) that strong that you do not need this source of grace He gave us? This is a temptation of the devil to lead you away from the true Church. Stay with your parish and start a Eucharistic Adoration chapel and be the most fervent one to use it.
M. Virginia
Catholic means universal and in my personal view could be used to broaden the meaning of the word Church to include the Eastern Orthodox founded by t Apostles in Antioch AD 37 and have Apostolic succession while their Sacraments are recognized as valid and hold on to tradition for dear life with a recognition of the Pope as first in honor only and all bishops as equal, that is to say they recognize the Pope in all but the Juridical power he has claimed for himself and so in essence there is another valid and worthy path to follow Christ even more fully as the early Christians did where most Churches were independent relying solely on local bishops. They are of course not without their own problems which usually are matters of geographical differences, Patriarchal squabbles involving power but not so much juridical power as changes in the Eastern Churches can only be made by agreement of all the bishops and patriarchs accepting and ratifying same and with each country or group of countries being autonomous there are no where near the problems found in the West with modernity and radical trashing of traditions via Vat. II being the most obvious along with the sexual scandals that followed with the 60 s sexual revolutions. Bottom line is you can make a change and still be Catholic, traditional and with valid Sacraments without the corruption and scandals that come from abuse of power so dominating the Western Church.