Students from Liberty University pray in front of the U.S. Supreme Court during oral arguments in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization abortion case on Dec. 1, 2021. / Katie Yoder/CNA
Washington D.C., Dec 1, 2021 / 15:40 pm (CNA).
The U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments about the constitutionality of Mississippi’s 15-week state abortion ban Wednesday, a high-stakes test of the settledness of legalized abortion in a deeply unsettled nation still sharply divided over the right to life.
The case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, is viewed by many Catholic leaders and pro-life groups as the best chance yet to overturn the court’s landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, which has barred restrictive early-term abortion laws like Mississippi’s for the past 48 years.
Over that time, some 62 million abortions have taken place in the United States, statistics show, a grim toll the Catholic Church sees as both a grave evil and a catastrophic political failure.
Conversely, a decision that strikes down Mississippi’s 2018 law, called the Gestational Age Act, which prohibits abortions after the 15th week of gestation, would represent a devastating setback for the pro-life movement. For many years it has pinned its hopes of overturning Roe on the goal of securing a supermajority of conservative justices on the nation’s highest court, as is the case now.
With thousands of people keeping a vocal but peaceful vigil outside the Supreme Court on a bright, brisk morning in Washington, D.C., the nine justices took up the intensely anticipated case in a proceeding that lasted nearly two hours.
Among the demonstrators were four women shown in a viral video posted online swallowing pills behind a large sign that reads, “WE ARE TAKING ABORTION PILLS FOREVER,” a reference to the prescription drugs mifepristone and misoprostol that when used in combination will induce a miscarriage.
Mississippi is asking the court to do more than simply uphold the state’s abortion law; it wants the court to overturn both Roe and a later ruling that affirmed it nearly 20 years later, the 1992 case Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
Both Roe and Casey “have no basis in the Constitution,” Scott G. Stewart, the state’s solicitor general, said in his opening argument.
“They have no home in our history or traditions. They’ve damaged the democratic process. They poison the law. They’ve choked off compromise for 50 years,” he said.
In Roe, the court ruled that states could not ban abortion before viability, which the court determined to be 24 to 28 weeks into pregnancy. Casey, viewed as the “Dobbs” of its day, found that while states could regulate pre-viability abortions, they could not enforce an “undue burden.” The Casey court defined that term to mean “a substantial obstacle in the path of a woman seeking an abortion of a nonviable fetus.”
Stewart said the two cases have “kept this court at the center of a political battle that it can never resolve.”
“Nowhere else does this court recognize a right to end a human life,” he said.
A question of ‘settled’ law
Legal scholars see the court’s reluctance to overturn past rulings, even highly controversial ones, as Mississippi’s greatest hurdle in Dobbs.
As anticipated, that legal principle, known as stare decisis, loomed large Wednesday, dominating the litigants’ oral arguments and the justices’ questions. Justice Amy Coney Barrett, the newest addition to the court’s 6-3 conservative majority, said that stare decisis is “obviously the core of this case.”
The term comes from the Latin phrase, Stare decisis at non quieta movere, which means “to stand by things decided and not disturb settled points.”
Stewart, the Mississippi solicitor general, argued that legalized abortion remains an unsettled debate in the United States nearly a half-century after Roe. He argued that the issue should be left to democratically elected state legislatures, not the courts.
“The Constitution places its trust in the people. On hard issue after hard issue, the people make this country work,” he said.
“Abortion is a hard issue. It demands the best from all of us, not a judgment by just a few of us when an issue affects everyone. And when the Constitution does not take sides on it, it belongs to the people.”
In its court brief, Mississippi cites stare decisis as the reason Roe and Casey should be overturned.
“Roe and Casey are egregiously wrong. The conclusion that abortion is a constitutional right has no basis in text, structure, history, or tradition,” the brief states. Roe itself broke from precedent because it invoked “a general ‘right to privacy’ unmoored from the Constitution,” the state argues.
“Abortion is fundamentally different from any right this Court has ever endorsed. No other right involves, as abortion does, ‘the purposeful termination of a potential life,’” the brief states. “Roe broke from prior cases, Casey failed to rehabilitate it, and both recognize a right that has no basis in the Constitution.”
But Julie Rikelman, litigation director of the Center for Reproductive Rights, sharply disagreed.
“Casey and Roe were correct,” Rikelman, who represented Jackson Women’s Health, Mississippi’s last remaining abortion provider, told the justices.
She added that there is an “an especially high bar here” as the Supreme Court rejected “every possible reason” for overturning Roe when it decided Casey nearly 30 years ago.
“Mississippi’s ban on abortion two months before viability is flatly unconstitutional under decades of precedent. Mississippi asks for the court to dismantle this precedent and allow states to force women to remain pregnant and give birth against their will,” she said.
“Two generations have now relied on this right,” Rikelman continued. “And one out of every four women makes the decision to end a pregnancy.”
A third attorney arguing before the court Wednesday, U.S. Solicitor General Elizabeth B. Prelogar, representing the Biden administration in opposition to Mississippi’s abortion law, couched the Dobbs case in similar terms. She said overturning Roe and Casey would be “an unprecedented contraction of individual rights and a stark departure from principles of stare decisis.”
Credibility concerns
Liberal justices Stephen G. Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan argued that overturning Roe and Casey would undermine the court’s integrity by signaling that its decisions were influenced by political pressure.
“Will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the constitution and its reading are just political acts?” Sotomayor said. “I don’t see how it is possible.”
Conservative Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh, however, pushed back against that reasoning. He noted that “some of the most consequential and important” decisions in the Supreme Court’s history overturned prior rulings. He cited such cases as the historic civil rights case Brown v. Board of Education, which struck down legalized segregation, and Miranda v. Arizona, which required police to inform suspects they have a right to remain silent.
“If the court had done that in those cases (and adhered to precedent), this country would be a much different place,” Kavanaugh said. Why then, he asked Rikelman, shouldn’t the court do the same in Dobbs, if it were to deem that Roe and Casey were wrongly decided?
“Because the view that a previous precedent is wrong, your honor, has never been enough for this court to overrule, and it certainly shouldn’t be enough here, when there’s 50 years of precedent,” Rikelman responded. The court needs a “special justification” to take such a step, she argued, saying that Mississippi has failed to provide any.
Said Rikelman: “It makes the same exact arguments the court already considered and rejected in its stare decisis analysis in Casey.”
Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., a conservative, took up a similar line of questioning with Prelogar, the U.S. solicitor general.
“Is it your argument that a case can never be overruled simply because it was egregiously wrong?” he asked.
“I think that at the very least, the state would have to come forward with some kind of materially changed circumstance or some kind of materially new argument, and Mississippi hasn’t done so in this case,” Prelogar responded.
“Really?” Alito replied. “So suppose Plessy versus Ferguson (an 1896 decision that affirmed the constitutionality of racial segregation laws) was re-argued in 1897, so nothing had changed. Would it not be sufficient to say that was an egregiously wrong decision on the day it was handed down and now it should be overruled?”
“I think it should have been overruled, but I think that the factual premise was wrong in the moment it was decided, and the court realized that and clarified that when it overruled in Brown,” Prelogar said.
“So there are circumstances in which a decision may be overruled, properly overruled, when it must be overruled simply because it was egregiously wrong at the moment it was decided?” Alito asked.
When Prelogar didn’t directly answer the question, Alito pressed again.
“Can a decision be overruled simply because it was erroneously wrong, even if nothing has changed between the time of that decision and the time when the court is called upon to consider whether it should be overruled?” he asked. “Yes or no? Can you give me a yes or no answer on that?”
“This court, no, has never overruled in that situation just based on a conclusion that the decision was wrong. It has always applied the stare decisis factors and likewise found that they warrant overruling in that instance,” Prelogar said.
Roberts cites China, North Korea
While the main focus of Wednesday’s proceeding related to stare decisis, there was also discussion of the viability standard established by Roe.
“I’d like to focus on the 15-week ban because that’s not a dramatic departure from viability,” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said in an exchange with Rikelman.
“It is the standard that the vast majority of other countries have. When you get to the viability standard (set at 24 to 28 weeks) we share that standard with the People’s Republic of China and North Korea,” he said.
In response, Rikelman said Roberts’ statement was “not correct,” arguing that “the majority of countries that permit legal access to abortion allow access right up until viability, even if they have nominal lines earlier.” She elaborated that while European countries may have 12- or 18-week limits, they allow exceptions for “broad social reasons, health reasons, socioeconomic reasons.”
A 2021 analysis by the Charlotte Lozier Institute found that 47 out of 50 European nations limit elective abortion prior to 15 weeks. Eight European nations, including Great Britain and Finland, do not allow elective abortion and instead require a specific medical or socioeconomic reason before permitting an abortion, the institute said.
The court may not announce a decision in the Dobbs case for several months. It may come at the end of its current term, in late June or early July, when major decisions are often announced.
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Clinton Foundation and Vatican link?
The optics just get worse and worse.
Just what the world, the Church and God need – a woke Vatican just desperate to curry favor with the elite.
They all steal from the Bible. They are inviting in the charlatans.
Sol, it’s indeed the optics. “It is sometimes a bit of a shock to be reminded that, in operational and practical fact, the medium is the message. This is merely to say that the personal and social consequences of any medium, of any extension of ourselves result from the new scale that is introduced into our affairs by each extension of ourselves” (Marshall McLuhan The Medium is the Message). What the Vatican health conference convey’s isn’t the technical organization of the conference. Rather it’s what the Vatican does with it, that is to say the message conveyed to the world of this Vatican’s apparent identification with the anti life convictions of the participants. As McLuhan would say an extension of the participants, and most egregiously the organizers.
Stop this insanity! Only pro lifers, pro marriage, Pro conservative folks should be invited to this conference.
Change this!
That is exactly right! —-so now the faithful should swallow, sit down and be quiet! How many will accept and how many will fight, that is the question? I hope many will set their sails and fight, fasting and prayer included. St. Paul didn’t stop and neither should we.
The pope has been in the news a lot lately and it’s all bad I’m afraid. In connection with the Vatican Bank corruption and confiscation of funds, using their Leonardo De Vinci satellites to conspire in American election fraud, participation with the “new world order” proponents in Davos, and now inviting Pro-abortion Clinton Foundation to comment on Health and the Soul. You’ve got to be kidding me. I’ve been a Catholic all my life and I am disgusted and embarrassed to have these allegations put forth on a daily basis. Time to investigate what’s going on and clean it up.
Indeed Michelle.
Yes, such noted ‘experts’.
This papacy relishes being…of the world.
That line up says it all, doesn’t it, about this Vatican? Unreal. It’s amazing whom they want us to consider credible. I guess it’s an opportunity to hang out with celebrities. Oh yes, and when your own cardinals ask for a conversation about Catholic dogma … no time for them. It’s become a joke. A pathetic joke. These are sad times for the Church. And, a little investigative reporting would be welcome. How much Peter Pence money is going into this star-studded event?
It is interesting to read so called defenders of the faith who judge others “unworthy” to receive Jesus in the Eucharist while the question and critize Christ’s Vicar Pope Francis. It seems they all forget Jesus reached out to sinners and condemned the self righteous legalistic. Those pointing the finger at Fauci, Biden etc. are the true heretics because they have greater loyalty to an ideology and when in comes to politics supported a rapist,corrupt puppet of the evil one they follow
What nonsense are you trying to sell under cover of darkness?
Jesus Himself who judged Judas unworthy. We follow him. We don’t follow you or others who speak with utensils in their mouths.
I neither supported nor voted for Bill Clinton.
I understand your perspective. A massive difference, is that Christ wasn’t seeking guidance from criminals, prostitutes and murderers. He was giving them everlasting life by commanding them to change their ways and repent. So unless this is going to be a massive intervention via zoom led by the Vatican to call on these people to change their ways, it’s an embarrassment to the church and NOTHING that resembles Christ’s attitude towards sinners.
Indeed a bit of light is in order here. People that publicly embrace grave evil and promote grave evil are by their own acts making themselves unworthy to receive the Holy Eucharist, King of heaven and earth. These people commit sacrilege. They bring judgement upon themselves.
I agree. This Vatican is harvesting hate and mistrust. Not serving the faithful.
This is a joke, right?
I was completely oblivious to what was going on in the world. I was suddenly awaken last year when they all told us to go home…thank God. I have returned to Jesus and the tradition precisely to counteract this diabolical shift and the goal of these people: shake the foundations of the church and scatter the sheeps in the woods, where the wolves lay, patiently waiting…but their plan has no foundation and will ultimately collapse. I feel kind of sorry for them, I don’t hate them, on the contrary, I pray for them. In fact they are sowing what they reep for they are the lost sheeps who have chosen power and money over God. I sincerely wish they see their way, because all I want in the end, is everybody to go in Heaven.
Remind me to never again give a dime to the Catholic Church. I’ll find other, more worthy, charities to lend my financial support.
AMEN.. That’s what I have done!!
Dear Deacon, This should surely interest you!
March 12, 2021
ROME (AP) — The Vatican warned Friday that it has nearly depleted its financial reserves from past donations to cover budget deficits over recent years, as it urged continued giving from the faithful to keep the Holy See afloat and Pope Francis’ ministry going.
Help is on the way –look — funding, by whom?
https://www.ncregister.com/news/vatican-conference-to-focus-on-mind-body-soul-connection-to-health-care
Not to worry —The global elites will take up the slack.
This is an absolute disgrace. Active proponents of abortion are speaking at the Vatican HEALTH conference? This is so messed up. Bring on the second coming to rid us of these hypocrites.
“The Vatican conference’s website lists more than 100 speakers including Kerry Kennedy, Cindy Crawford, John Sculley, Brandon Marshall, Joe Perry of Aerosmith…”
Whaaa? What about RuPaul? The Khardasians? Sharon Osbourne? Usher?
And when will that new reality show about the pope be airing?
Suggested title:
“Popin’ Out!”
And I wonder…. Does watching an hour of TMZ now satisfy my Sunday obligation?
I mean, really. I’m not sure whether to laugh or convert to Mormonism.
Brilliant, bro! Got a great laugh out of that, brineyman.
And now back to weeping for the Church.
You’re so right. This is a joke! And they wonder why numbers of folks going to mass is declining.
Jesus said the gates of hell will never prevail against my church. The only way that’s going to happen is for us to stay in the church and support making changes to it, as we pray for the souls of those, in the church, who are being misled by satan. Anyone who leaves the Catholic church is not only leaving Jesus and the church he founded but they’re also siding with satan and his efforts to get us out!
Laugh and stay tuned to the True Church which belongs to Christ, not to the henchmen who think they are running the True Church. What these men think is not as Christ would.
Covert to Mormonism! Why fight the likelihood that Christ visited Central America? Tom S
They fit well in the long line of Vatican guests during this rotten papacy: Jeffrey Sachs, Bernie Sanders, Bono, George Clooney, James Martin, Rothchilds, the NBA ambassadors and various other celebrity degenerates, international banksters, Communist thugs, New World Order political hacks and population control maniacs. Whenever, God willing, this gang of perverts, swindlers and Marxist ideologues occupying the Eternal City departs or is driven off, all the Vatican grounds are going to have to be exorcised.
Utterly shameful, and even degenerate…
Where is Cardinal Sarah when you need him?
Chelsea Clinton can speak on healthcare as authoritatively as Francis does on “climate change” or any one of the many other topics that preoccupy his mind.
And Clown Shows like this are but one of the reason that the donations for Peter’s Pence have dried up.
Couldn’t get more Left than this Conference. Do they think we won’t notice? Is this how we got vaccines started from aborted baby cells? Should have been paying more attention in past years…
Vaccine I trust in thee! When Our Lady of Fatima addressed the children in 1917 Our Lady knew Jacinta and Francesco would soon die of the Coronavirus Spanish Flu. There is only one thing to fear, Hell.
Once again, where are the bishops in the United States, and for that matter elsewhere, to oppose and condemn this travesty? The silence of the hirelings is deafening.
Has anyone noticed that the first 10 comments about this “Vatican Health Conference” are ALL negative! What is going on in Rome? It’s really getting to be just a big joke! Nothing done, nothing accomplished, and rumors flying faster than Joe Biden’s memory!
We need a leader!
Even the “signature” artwork insults God, His Divinity and Holy Creation, but that the Vatican is associated with this Neo Tower of Babel sickens the body, depresses the mind and disorients the soul. Most certainly there is not any “health care” associated with these speakers. So, it is urgent that faithful Catholics raise their voices and witness to the innocent and ignorant that the spirit of the antiChrist threatens even the portals of Heaven. Please Father scatter the liars. Come Lord Jesus Christ and confound foolish and evil imbued women and men. Descend Holy Spirit and Inspire your loyal sons and daughters to counter with Truth, leaving no doubt that man cannot rectify what God does not recognize.
Why is Joe Perry speaking at this?
My thoughts as well. And when did Chelsea Clinton become a health or religious/spiritual expert?
I refer to my original question – “This is a joke, right?”
What about all the nuns who staffed the hospitals for free long before Medicare and Medicaid ran up our federal deficit? Will any of their insight and sacrifice be included in this conference?
Teaching Catholics how to be less Catholic….. Then all will receive Communion at the end of the conference…..
Please do not give up on the Catholic Church. In today’s reading from Acts chapter 5:34-42 we are reminded that anything that comes from God will not be destroyed. Yes we will go through times of corruption and become disillusioned, but we are asked to stay faithful and trust in the Lord.
I stand by her Monica, even in these times of seeming confusion.
Abandon the Titanic. Seek ye the Lord while He may be found. Jesus came into the world to seek and to save that which was lost. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. There is none righteous, no not one. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life; no man cometh unto the Father except through Him. For by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves; not of works lest any man should boast. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Folks, Jesus is the Answer! Flee to Him in these troubled and confusing times. He is coming soon for His children. Trust in the Lord within thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding; In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths. God loves you… John 3:16!
This is a sham and the Catholic Church is doing great harm to those who happen to believe it is the one true church. These speakers are abominable.
All good Catholics need to hear Chelsea Clinton talk about pro-life being unconscionable. Give me a break. Maybe Francis hasn’t heard that the United States government is paying for body parts from aborted babies. When we stand up for life, it should be at all stages and in all arenas — especially in the Vatican. If not there, where?
The ‘out of touch with what’s important’ attitude that permeates this papacy is mind-boggling! Where is the dedication to saving souls that Christ mandated to His disciples? I watched a show last night where a boy of 10 was actually taking care of himself as well as his emotionally dysfunctional mother. I commented to my husband that that scenario is sadly playing out exponentially in society today. It has certainly infected the Church – would the Apostles recognize many who call themselves Bishop today? The majority look more like sheep than shepherds. I pray every day for their wisdom, humility and courage in leading the Church and I remind myself that God’s plan will always triumph – thank God.
My first reaction on reading this article was, “Huh?”. I thought I better hold off in case I’m missing something. I see I should have trusted my first instinct.
What? No Madonna? No Cardi What’s-her-name?
Chelsea Clinton is a strong supporter of abortion. Dr. Fauci is a lapsed catholic who identifies himself as a humanist. No wonder the Catholic church is losing menbers.
My invitation must be lost in the mail – I’m great on the kazoo.
This conference is one more reminder of the fact that it is nearly impossible to write satire these days. The Francis papacy as a prolonged SNL skit is not far-fetched.
Bring back Benedict XVI.
Have they lost their minds?
Chelsea Clinton is qualified to do exactly WHAT which would make her necessary as a speaker at the Vatican??? Being the daughter of a president may indeed get you into Ivory league Colleges, but still qualifies you as nothing special. It does seem like the Church is more worried about the opinion of the world than the souls of its flock.Why are churches in the US still semi-shut with no choirs singing, etc?? Maybe the Pope should ask Fauci when, IF EVER, we can drop the farce with the masks. Especially for those who have been vaccinated.Or is this just an attempt to de-humanize the entire population??
I wonder if the Pope will invite the “feel good” giant rabbit at Biden’s secular Easter greeting as well. Or maybe he has a new special mascot for the event – Vati-Vacci the giant syringe.
These are times that I question my religion, but maintain my faith.
I question the quality of the institutional leadership. They may have been ordained to minister the Holy Mysteries, but their competence to teach or lead is questionable.
Is it possible that the Vatican is arranging this as a way of evangelical outreach to those who do not yet know Christ? Someone else previously noted Jesus was known to eat with sinners, and we are all sinners, correct?
I don’t think anyone is, in principle, opposed to hearing from non-Catholic experts on certain topics. But, as other folks have noted, Ms. Clinton not only has no demonstrated expertise in, well, anything, she is staunchly pro-abortion. Yes, Jesus ate with the sinners; it’s nowhere indicated, however, that he took directives or advise from said sinners, especially on matters of morality and anthropology.
This is not a tent revival.
Just another move to determine who is important enough to spend health dollars on and who can be left to their own care
That was my second thought Jan when I read of this last week.
The end is near if such travesty is operating at the Vatican. This corruption has been operable for years and is getting worse. It’s part of the demonic “Great Reset”. Pope Francis is either a naive puppet of the devil or the anti-Christ himself.Christ knows all. Jesus I trust in you.
Given the choice I would vote that he is a naive puppet of the devil, though this gives him too much credit. He is certainly NOT a candidate for the anti-Christ, who, though filled with lies and desecration, will be orders of magnitude smarter than Bergoglio, and much, much more seductive.
Hopefully your editors did not learn their skills from the likes of the CEO’s of Facebook, Twitter, etc.. I agree, obscene language is not acceptable.
What do I need to moderate?
Chelsea clinton??? What has she ever done to speak to an audience? Cindy Crawford??? She is so wealthy she sells her cosmetics on TV by subscription.
Who ever picked some of these people? They should be fired. Wait…are our donations going towards paying these people?
aaaaaaa-yes
Pope Francis is a socialist whose main aim is for a one world government. Most of the people on this list do not seem to know much about health.
What exactly does the Vatican think it is going to learn from Chelsea Clinton or Cindy Crawford about health? What nonsense. Where are they getting the money to pay for this. Talk about light weight speakers! Couldn’t they afford faithful serious speakers? Probably they tried to get some but the invitation was rejected. It seems no faithful serious Catholic with gravitas wants to speak at the Vatican these days. Instead of putting on this one pony show the Vatican would do better to deal with the heretic bishops of Germany if they want to attract top notch speakers on anything. I have been praying for the few good bishops and laity in Germany. They must be really suffering right now.
This scathing reaction is worth reading in its entirety:
Vatican Invites Abortion Advocate Chelsea Clinton To Talk About ‘Health’ And The ‘Soul’
by Evita Duffy
April 16, 2021
Excerpt:
The conference will take place May 6-8, and “will be moderated by renowned journalists, who will explore the role of religion, faith and spirituality, and the interplay of the mind, body, and soul – and, ultimately, search for areas of convergence between the humanities and the natural sciences.”
The “renowned” journalists include Katie Couric, Richard Lui, Dr. Mehmet Oz, Amy Robach, Robin Roberts, and Meredith Vieira.
“Together we will focus on advances in medical innovation and the creation of healthier communities and seek to catalyze new, interdisciplinary approaches and partnerships to improve health and wellbeing, as well as understand human uniqueness,” the Vatican said.
The Vatican invites Satan’s helpers inside. Somehow I think Satan has been inside the Vatican for a while now. Do you think you will discuss abortions? Way more deaths to abortion than anything you can choose to discuss. I have recently left the church AGAIN after giving it another shot. My family included. I will find God elsewhere. He doesn’t reside in the Catholic Church anymore.
Mike. Christ’s Mystical Body from the Crucifixion on Golgotha to present day is Crucified. If Satan’s helpers obscure Christ’s presence you’ll find Him hidden in the Eucharist.
As always Father, forever and shall be.
Mike, don’t leave Jesus because His followers are wicked. He warned us that the enemy would sew weeds amongst the wheat, that there would be hirelings who do not care for the sheep. Study Church history. There have always been wicked priests and bishops and popes. Saints from the early centuries have said the road to hell is paved with the skulls of priests and bishops but the Church is still standing because there are still saints. Satan keeps trying to destroy the Church and he does it from the inside. Jesus told us that the way to heaven is hard and narrow and few find it. If the traitors in the Church upset you remember that even Jesus had his Judas.
Yes indeed Ruth. As I often say, Ordained by God, yet ruled by man.
My first reaction, I was very disturbed that such an assemblage was invited, my second was reason, that perhaps it was to save souls. Yet for many of those individuals, they have gleefully given their souls to Satan. How does one sway against such evil?
Reading about this health conference is breaking my heart. The poster seems to denigrate God the father and the mystery of creation. The supernatural truths of our church and the sanctity of life are disappearing from the Mystical Body of Christ… I’m very very unhappy about this. The whole thing should be cancelled.
As our Shepherds, the so-called leaders should know that the lay people are praying for them but we do not feel that we are being Well tended.
Every follower of the one holy apostolic church should be PROTESTING clearly.
I would imagine that the church wants to be more inclusive, which is fine with me. What if find more interesting is who was NOT invited to the conference, such as Catholic Hospital Directors from the USA who do not observe the Catholic Social Teachings, instead putting capitalism ahead of the health of their patients and, indeed, ahead of church teachings.
Somehow I missed this epic event last year, but I needed a good laugh today, so thanks for running it again.
Yuk Yuk