Students from Liberty University pray in front of the U.S. Supreme Court during oral arguments in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization abortion case on Dec. 1, 2021. / Katie Yoder/CNA
Washington D.C., Dec 1, 2021 / 15:40 pm (CNA).
The U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments about the constitutionality of Mississippi’s 15-week state abortion ban Wednesday, a high-stakes test of the settledness of legalized abortion in a deeply unsettled nation still sharply divided over the right to life.
The case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, is viewed by many Catholic leaders and pro-life groups as the best chance yet to overturn the court’s landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, which has barred restrictive early-term abortion laws like Mississippi’s for the past 48 years.
Over that time, some 62 million abortions have taken place in the United States, statistics show, a grim toll the Catholic Church sees as both a grave evil and a catastrophic political failure.
Conversely, a decision that strikes down Mississippi’s 2018 law, called the Gestational Age Act, which prohibits abortions after the 15th week of gestation, would represent a devastating setback for the pro-life movement. For many years it has pinned its hopes of overturning Roe on the goal of securing a supermajority of conservative justices on the nation’s highest court, as is the case now.
With thousands of people keeping a vocal but peaceful vigil outside the Supreme Court on a bright, brisk morning in Washington, D.C., the nine justices took up the intensely anticipated case in a proceeding that lasted nearly two hours.
Among the demonstrators were four women shown in a viral video posted online swallowing pills behind a large sign that reads, “WE ARE TAKING ABORTION PILLS FOREVER,” a reference to the prescription drugs mifepristone and misoprostol that when used in combination will induce a miscarriage.
Mississippi is asking the court to do more than simply uphold the state’s abortion law; it wants the court to overturn both Roe and a later ruling that affirmed it nearly 20 years later, the 1992 case Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
Both Roe and Casey “have no basis in the Constitution,” Scott G. Stewart, the state’s solicitor general, said in his opening argument.
“They have no home in our history or traditions. They’ve damaged the democratic process. They poison the law. They’ve choked off compromise for 50 years,” he said.
In Roe, the court ruled that states could not ban abortion before viability, which the court determined to be 24 to 28 weeks into pregnancy. Casey, viewed as the “Dobbs” of its day, found that while states could regulate pre-viability abortions, they could not enforce an “undue burden.” The Casey court defined that term to mean “a substantial obstacle in the path of a woman seeking an abortion of a nonviable fetus.”
Stewart said the two cases have “kept this court at the center of a political battle that it can never resolve.”
“Nowhere else does this court recognize a right to end a human life,” he said.
A question of ‘settled’ law
Legal scholars see the court’s reluctance to overturn past rulings, even highly controversial ones, as Mississippi’s greatest hurdle in Dobbs.
As anticipated, that legal principle, known as stare decisis, loomed large Wednesday, dominating the litigants’ oral arguments and the justices’ questions. Justice Amy Coney Barrett, the newest addition to the court’s 6-3 conservative majority, said that stare decisis is “obviously the core of this case.”
The term comes from the Latin phrase, Stare decisis at non quieta movere, which means “to stand by things decided and not disturb settled points.”
Stewart, the Mississippi solicitor general, argued that legalized abortion remains an unsettled debate in the United States nearly a half-century after Roe. He argued that the issue should be left to democratically elected state legislatures, not the courts.
“The Constitution places its trust in the people. On hard issue after hard issue, the people make this country work,” he said.
“Abortion is a hard issue. It demands the best from all of us, not a judgment by just a few of us when an issue affects everyone. And when the Constitution does not take sides on it, it belongs to the people.”
In its court brief, Mississippi cites stare decisis as the reason Roe and Casey should be overturned.
“Roe and Casey are egregiously wrong. The conclusion that abortion is a constitutional right has no basis in text, structure, history, or tradition,” the brief states. Roe itself broke from precedent because it invoked “a general ‘right to privacy’ unmoored from the Constitution,” the state argues.
“Abortion is fundamentally different from any right this Court has ever endorsed. No other right involves, as abortion does, ‘the purposeful termination of a potential life,’” the brief states. “Roe broke from prior cases, Casey failed to rehabilitate it, and both recognize a right that has no basis in the Constitution.”
But Julie Rikelman, litigation director of the Center for Reproductive Rights, sharply disagreed.
“Casey and Roe were correct,” Rikelman, who represented Jackson Women’s Health, Mississippi’s last remaining abortion provider, told the justices.
She added that there is an “an especially high bar here” as the Supreme Court rejected “every possible reason” for overturning Roe when it decided Casey nearly 30 years ago.
“Mississippi’s ban on abortion two months before viability is flatly unconstitutional under decades of precedent. Mississippi asks for the court to dismantle this precedent and allow states to force women to remain pregnant and give birth against their will,” she said.
“Two generations have now relied on this right,” Rikelman continued. “And one out of every four women makes the decision to end a pregnancy.”
A third attorney arguing before the court Wednesday, U.S. Solicitor General Elizabeth B. Prelogar, representing the Biden administration in opposition to Mississippi’s abortion law, couched the Dobbs case in similar terms. She said overturning Roe and Casey would be “an unprecedented contraction of individual rights and a stark departure from principles of stare decisis.”
Credibility concerns
Liberal justices Stephen G. Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan argued that overturning Roe and Casey would undermine the court’s integrity by signaling that its decisions were influenced by political pressure.
“Will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the constitution and its reading are just political acts?” Sotomayor said. “I don’t see how it is possible.”
Conservative Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh, however, pushed back against that reasoning. He noted that “some of the most consequential and important” decisions in the Supreme Court’s history overturned prior rulings. He cited such cases as the historic civil rights case Brown v. Board of Education, which struck down legalized segregation, and Miranda v. Arizona, which required police to inform suspects they have a right to remain silent.
“If the court had done that in those cases (and adhered to precedent), this country would be a much different place,” Kavanaugh said. Why then, he asked Rikelman, shouldn’t the court do the same in Dobbs, if it were to deem that Roe and Casey were wrongly decided?
“Because the view that a previous precedent is wrong, your honor, has never been enough for this court to overrule, and it certainly shouldn’t be enough here, when there’s 50 years of precedent,” Rikelman responded. The court needs a “special justification” to take such a step, she argued, saying that Mississippi has failed to provide any.
Said Rikelman: “It makes the same exact arguments the court already considered and rejected in its stare decisis analysis in Casey.”
Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., a conservative, took up a similar line of questioning with Prelogar, the U.S. solicitor general.
“Is it your argument that a case can never be overruled simply because it was egregiously wrong?” he asked.
“I think that at the very least, the state would have to come forward with some kind of materially changed circumstance or some kind of materially new argument, and Mississippi hasn’t done so in this case,” Prelogar responded.
“Really?” Alito replied. “So suppose Plessy versus Ferguson (an 1896 decision that affirmed the constitutionality of racial segregation laws) was re-argued in 1897, so nothing had changed. Would it not be sufficient to say that was an egregiously wrong decision on the day it was handed down and now it should be overruled?”
“I think it should have been overruled, but I think that the factual premise was wrong in the moment it was decided, and the court realized that and clarified that when it overruled in Brown,” Prelogar said.
“So there are circumstances in which a decision may be overruled, properly overruled, when it must be overruled simply because it was egregiously wrong at the moment it was decided?” Alito asked.
When Prelogar didn’t directly answer the question, Alito pressed again.
“Can a decision be overruled simply because it was erroneously wrong, even if nothing has changed between the time of that decision and the time when the court is called upon to consider whether it should be overruled?” he asked. “Yes or no? Can you give me a yes or no answer on that?”
“This court, no, has never overruled in that situation just based on a conclusion that the decision was wrong. It has always applied the stare decisis factors and likewise found that they warrant overruling in that instance,” Prelogar said.
Roberts cites China, North Korea
While the main focus of Wednesday’s proceeding related to stare decisis, there was also discussion of the viability standard established by Roe.
“I’d like to focus on the 15-week ban because that’s not a dramatic departure from viability,” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said in an exchange with Rikelman.
“It is the standard that the vast majority of other countries have. When you get to the viability standard (set at 24 to 28 weeks) we share that standard with the People’s Republic of China and North Korea,” he said.
In response, Rikelman said Roberts’ statement was “not correct,” arguing that “the majority of countries that permit legal access to abortion allow access right up until viability, even if they have nominal lines earlier.” She elaborated that while European countries may have 12- or 18-week limits, they allow exceptions for “broad social reasons, health reasons, socioeconomic reasons.”
A 2021 analysis by the Charlotte Lozier Institute found that 47 out of 50 European nations limit elective abortion prior to 15 weeks. Eight European nations, including Great Britain and Finland, do not allow elective abortion and instead require a specific medical or socioeconomic reason before permitting an abortion, the institute said.
The court may not announce a decision in the Dobbs case for several months. It may come at the end of its current term, in late June or early July, when major decisions are often announced.
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When Pilate asked “what is truth?” it is incorrect to regard Christ as possibly unresponsive in not answering… Instead, he stood there, face to face, alone and real and far beyond any words, silently, “the Word [truth] made flesh.”
The sufficient response to abortionists’ arguments is, finally, the ignored silence of the aborted, each one without exception. Like the existence of God, as more than any of our mere ideas or arguments, and again crucified. We know not what we do.
What a profound insight “ the Word ( truth ) made flesh. Your depiction has forever changed my understanding of their exchange.
Thank you.
The Democrat Party demands that we, Catholics and other adherents of Western Civilization, accept its view of reality, that reality, truth, facts, are “socially constructed.” In this system, facts do not result from observation and experiment but from the WILL of social institutions such as the press, government, schools etc. So, when a judge declares that Bruce Jenner is a woman, he is indeed a woman. The observed criteria of a male do not matter. This system does not work in a community which allows dissent. It does not work without intimidation, harassment, constant repetition and a Goolag. I have to wonder why our bishops have not caught on to this scam and condemned it from the pulpits (I know. Catholics do not have pulpits anymore.) and exposed it in the schools.
Well done!
Truth is the domaine of God, his word is an ever reliable guide.
John 8:32 And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
2 Timothy 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.
Blessings
I believe most women that conceived through rape would simply not want to carry their rapist’s child to term and probably could not be convinced to do so. Adoption for children so conceived becomes a moot point. I agree that should be the solution, but I also believe it is unachievable.
The argument against “no one should be forced to have a child” is also mostly religious. I agree with it, but it cannot convince people that do not accept the underlying principles.
I know I wouldn’t enjoy carrying that baby to term, and would need therapy, but I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I killed it. Women need to be convinced that the alternative to carrying it will cause irreparable, life long harm. Nine months of stress is way better. You can heal from it. There’s no healing after abortion.
Not true, Jennifer. I feel free and relieved that I was able to get an abortion at 14 when I was raped. If I had been forced to give birth, I would have taken my life.
Maybe maybe not. Certainly the laws in this area need updating. There are a handful of states where the rapist can be child custody, apparently. That needs to be looked at.
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https://thelifeinstitute.net/learning-centre/abortion-effects/children/conceived-in-rape
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/in-7-us-states-rape-victims-can-be-legally-forced-to-share-custody-of-their-children-with-their-rapist-fathers
I can’t imagine I would want to carry the child, but I would. It appears a fair number do. It is important to punish the rapist, not the child in question.
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https://thelifeinstitute.net/learning-centre/abortion-effects/children/conceived-in-rape
Custody laws probably need to be updated in some states, however: https://www.foxnews.com/us/in-7-us-states-rape-victims-can-be-legally-forced-to-share-custody-of-their-children-with-their-rapist-fathers
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Then too, if we allow rape as an exeption, how many women who do not want to be pregnant will lie about it?
https://saintanastasia.net/documents/2021/9/St%20Anastasia%20FOL%20Cenacle%20Prayer%20%20%20Book%20version%208-22-21.pdf –
The Flame of Love, given for our times , to blind Satan , to see The Light , to reclaim our spiritual DNA , in the Two Hearts –
‘O Blessed Lady , place us in the Divine fire where we belong and share with us the Immaculate Conception ‘ … the graces in the Immaculate Conception that was mystical and non carnal as per tradition ( as would have been for Pre Fall Adam ) to thus help put out the flames of carnal evils …The Passion meant to put to continuous death all negativities , in The Precious Blood , bringing forth new Life , of belonging to The Lord , his goodness at ever deeper levels ..
The Synod would likely address these areas , of ‘walking with The Lord ‘ in ever greater Oneness with His Heart and thoughts, that have been redone in His Sacred Humanity , removing the evils ..its memory alone to prevail ever more deeply .. every tear and pain He and the Mother has shed to be offfered up as our own too ..for its transforming healing graces .. trusting that our Loving Father does not allow any pain without desire to bring good out of same ..may be in levels far beyond what we can even dream .. even when the Way is narrow and difficult ..
Thank God that The Church, her children are blessed to rise up in the Divine Will as did our Lord after The Passion ..
May the miracle of the ruling today too be another sign of same ! 🙂
Has the Scripture verse, “With God all things are possible” ever crossed your desk? How about, “If you had faith the size of a mustard seed,” you could move mountains?
The child conceived by rape carries the father’s DNA. It carries equally the mother’s. The mother’s placenta, the mother’s blood and body nourish the child. In that sense, the child is more the mother’s than the father’s.
Aborting a child conceived through rape kills the rapist’s child but also the mother’s child, and the mother is the sole decider of that choice. In the eyes of God, aborting one’s innocent child may perhaps be judged merit more severely than the rapist’s crime of rape.
Have you ever read the story of St. Maria Goretti? The moral is that great good may come through suffering great evil.
Moses in the tent.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2022/06/22/catholic-marriage-is-a-gift-not-a-formality-pope-francis-says-at-world-meeting-of-families-2022-opening/ –
Sweet and beautiful words from the Holy Father , blessing marriages and families -echoing the truth given us by The Spirit, through St.John Paul 11 , how marriage itself is a gift , which has in it the power of divine love – strong, enduring,faithful, able to recover .. Christ gives Himself to you , so that you have the strength ..
With the grace of Sacrament, God makes it a wonderful journey , to be taken with Him, never alone’.
Couples with responsibility to discern how those graces may have been rejected ,
to decide to go in own rebellious ways ..not requitting the Love in holiness in relationships, being grateful for life, that of oneself and of the other – for every heart beat , breath , every Wound of The Lord and The Mother- esp. to ward off the flood waters of lies , to drive out the brood of vipers that can manifest as hardness of hearts, carnal greeds in or around us and deafen the hearing ..in fear and confusion such as on the often enough wrongly replayed words – ‘who am I to judge..’ – words meant as a blessing for those who are searching for The Father , even if in errant ways , that they can recover , are not beyond finding His tender Love in holy and innocent brotherly relationships .
Much Light of Truth around us all ….Glory be to all who help to bring same –
in The Voice of The Mother too that blessed The Baptist ..
A living human has a body and a soul.
The human body comes into existence at conception.
How can we specify when God creates the soul?
There are pro-life atheists. The late Nat Hentoff was a pro-life atheist.
The soul is the principle of life and so if something is alive, it has a soul.
After over 60 Millian Candles of Life have been snuffed out.The selfishness of self will and the “easier softer way”.That Abortion is peddled as the answer too.Entrap’s the minds of the naive & gullible Male & Female parent to “Never” know The Great What If,In this Life or the Next.No wonder Satan Smiles & Laughs.
The situation sadly and badly is that a lot hold and take their “beliefs” more than “facts” and thus blinding them from the “truth.” Take for example the good portion of Republicans who believe Trump won the 2020 election even in the face of mountain of evidence that contradict his claim. Or those who believe that the earth is flat. Or those who believe that Russia in its special military operation did not invade Ukraine. Or those Catholics who take Archbishop Vigano as a modern day St. Francis calling on the powers that be in the Church to reform.
I followed the 2020 elections on the live-streams on YouTube done by Canadian attorney Viva Frei and American lawyer Robert Barnes. Barnes represented some of the Covington Catholic students. They have brought up many creditable claims of voting irregularities. By all accounts the courts took a dive. Cases filed before the election were dismissed for lack of damages, lack of standing. Cases filed after the election were dismissed because of laches, filing too late. Time magazine did an article about election “fortification” that in a way admitted to the election fun and games, but slanted it to make it sound high toned and ethical.
In the Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ God is infinitely adored and exalted.
The woman caught in adultery was not sinning against the Holy Spirit.
The rapist will not suffer capital punishment. Why inflict capital punishment (abortion) on the innocent child?
Time to remove Weddington’s name from The Women’s Hall of Fame.