Vatican City, Jun 2, 2018 / 03:42 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Survivors of sexual abuse and other abuses perpetrated by Chile’s most notorious abuser priest, Fernando Karadima, met with Pope Francis Saturday. They said they found a pope who not only listened and suffered with them, but who truly understood the depth of the crisis and the steps that are needed going forward.
“I came to Rome with three ideas. First, that he invited us, the advice that Peter would share with us, and also with hope. I have to say that the three things are confirmed and have exceeded my expectations,” Fr. Eugenio de la Fuente Lora told journalists June 2 after meeting with the pope.
Three fundamental takeaways from the encounter, he said, are the pope’s “listening, empathy and welcome.”
De la Fuente, who was a victim of Karadima’s abuse, voiced gratitude for feeling “completely understood by someone admirably empathetic, who suffered with my pain and understood it.”
Pope Francis, he said, “has a very deep understanding of the problem and… he has some very concrete ideas for how to advance, always on the short, medium and long term.”
Renewal won’t be immediate, but it will take time, he said, adding that the pope is “very clear” about what needs to be done.
De la Fuente is part of a second group of priests and victims of Chile’s most notorious abuser priest, Fr. Fernando Karadima. They are holding meetings with Pope Francis at the Vatican June 1-3.
Staying at the Santa Marta guesthouse, where Pope Francis lives, the group of nine includes five priests who were victims of abuse of power, conscience, and sexuality; two priests who have been assisting the victims; and two lay people.
In addition to De la Fuente, the group includes Fr. Francisco Javier Astaburuaga Ossa, a priest who accompanied victims Juan Carlos Cruz and James Hamilton before they went public about their abuse. Another victim of Karadima’s abuse, Fr. Alejandro Vial Amunátegui, is also in the group.
Two of the other priests who will meet with the pope are Fr. Javier Barros Bascuñán and Fr. Sergio Cobo Montalba. The remaining four participants have chosen not to go public.
Msgr. Jordi Bertomeu, who assisted Maltese Archbishop Charles Scicluna in the February investigation of the Chilean crisis, was also present. The two investigators will travel to Chile again in the coming days, this time visiting the Diocese of Osorno, rather than Santiago.
Saturday’s meeting with survivors began with 4 p.m. Mass June 2, after which the group stayed with the pope for four hours and fifteen minutes. Francis met them individually and as a group before taking his leave at 8:15 p.m. No other encounters with the pope are expected before the group returns to Chile.
In comments to the press after meeting with the pope, Astaburuaga said Francis focused heavily on the concept of the “holy faithful People of God” spoken of in the Second Vatican Council document “Lumen Gentium,” saying the Church must work harder to build an ecclesiology that has “a strong sense” of this concept.
“The people of God are essential, pastors are from the people of God and they are also there to serve the people of God,” Astaburuaga said, adding that all baptized are called to be “builders of the Church.”
The priest said that in order to change the “culture of abuse and concealment” Pope Francis spoke of in a recent letter to Chilean Catholics, a careful process of discernment is needed which takes three things into consideration: time, people and place.
When contemplating any decision, it’s important to think about “who are the people, places and times,” he said, stressing that the process of renewal in Chile is “the work of everyone, not just one.”
“This is why the pope insisted on returning to the concept of the people of God from the Second Vatican Council. We are all responsible: priests, bishops, laity, the holy people. It’s a joint task.”
Pope Francis, he said, listened “very carefully” when he spoke about his experience accompanying victims of abuse. “This is the testimony he gave us. To listen, and to listen with a lot of attention (and) a lot of trust.”
Though the process has at times been difficult, Astaburuaga said accompanying victims such as Cruz and Hamilton over the past 20 years “has its fruits,” and “it’s a great joy in the midst of their great suffering.”
Pope Francis, he said, also asked them to continue praying for the Church in Chile, particularly by emphasizing Eucharistic Adoration more strongly in local dioceses.
The pope also again asked for forgiveness in the name of the Church for the suffering each of them has lived, said Astaburuaga, who called the act “a great humility” on the part of the pope.
“I’ll go back to Chile with a lot of hope,” he said, adding that “beyond the difficulties there are, conflicts are always an opportunity. Conflicts that we have to face, but always with hope.”
Most of those who came to the Vatican for the June 2 meeting with the pope participated in an investigation of abuse cover-up by the hierarchy in Chile, which took place in February and was conducted by Archbishop Charles Scicluna of Malta and Msgr. Jordi Bertomeu of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The others worked with the investigation after the archbishop’s time in Chile.
This weekend’s gathering conclude the pope’s first round of meetings with the victims of abuses which occurred at Karadima’s Sacred Heart parish in Santiago.
Pope Francis said Mass for the group June 2, after which he met the nine as a group before holding individual conversations. He had met with three more of Karadima’s victims, Juan Carlos Cruz, James Hamilton, and Andres Murillo, at the Vatican April 27-30.
Karadima was convicted by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 2011 of abusing minors, and sentenced to a life of prayer and penance. He has not been sentenced by civil courts because of Chile’s statue of limitations.
A priestly association Karadima was involved in and which he had led for many years, the Priestly Union of the Sacred Heart, was suppressed within a year of his conviction.
Attention to Karadima’s abuse has heightened since the appointment of Bishop Juan de la Cruz Barros Madrid to the Diocese of Osorno in 2015. Barros had been accused of both covering up and at times participating in Karadima’s abuses.
Pope Francis initially defended Barros, saying he had received no evidence of the bishop’s guilt, and called accusations against him “calumny” during a trip to Chile in January. He later relented, and sent Scicluna to investigate the situation in Chile.
After receiving Scicluna’s report, Francis apologized, said that he had been seriously mistaken, and asked to meet the country’s bishops and more outspoken survivors in person.
He met with Chile’s bishops May 15-17. As a result, each of them tendered letters of resignation, which Pope Francis has yet to accept or reject. The pope also gave the bishops a letter chastising them for systemic cover-up of clerical abuse and calling them to institute deep changes.
On May 31, the Vatican announced that Francis has decided to send Scicluna and Bertomeu back to Chile in the coming days, this time traveling to the Diocese of Osorno, where Barros is stationed, in order to “advance the process of healing and reparation for victims of abuse” in Chile.
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May each and every child be blessed with love, joy, health, and happiness worldwide.
“These children — there were many of them! — filled my heart with joy. I repeat: ‘No child is a mistake,’” he said. These are the words of Pope Francis and they are words that have the potential of bearing truth. To be fully actualized, the Pope should now DO something about it. And here’s my suggestion which is only one of many.
Let Francis say to all the bishops in every diocese of the world that each diocese should announce that any women in a crisis pregnancy can contact any diocese of the Catholic Church and, if they are considering an abortion, the diocese will provide medical assistance, housing if necessary, a job and adoption services if the woman feels that she is unable to care for her baby throughout its childhood.
Francis should offer concrete services to women in crisis pregancies if he truly believes that no child is a mistake. Words mean nothing if not attached to specific acts. In that case they remain just words.
He would never do that. What he believes or what he thinks he believes varies with his petulant moods. He could never betray all the pro-aborts of whom he is often so enamored.
An effective way to combat the killings is to publicize this video in youtube from Dr. Anthony Levatino M.D. Gynecologist Obstetrician and former abortionist detailing the horrors of abortion procedures at the different stages of pregnancy. Show it especially to young women who are not told in school the true details of abortion at the different stages; in this video age this is a most effective way to combat the killings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFZDhM5Gwhk&t=269s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFZDhM5Gwhk&t=269s
Maybe the Pope can have a word with my mom who made it beyond clear that if she had her way I would’ve been aborted and reminds every day that I am a mistake. This might be the New Year’s Eve I finally end my own life. I am tired of knowing I should not exist.
Your value as a human being doesn’t depend on what other people say, think, or do. Maybe a better goal for the new year would be to get rid of the toxic people in your life and focus your efforts on being the best version of yourself possible. Living well is the best revenge.
Jane, never think that. Your Mom sounds like an emotionally disturbed person and you cannot take your sense of self from someone like that. No matter that she is your mother. There are numbers of people who are too damaged to be fit parents. You are of value to God, and to others you may not even yet know. We can never know what it is that God has in store for us. Your purpose may not yet have been revealed to you.
I was totally devastated when I couldnt have children.The sadness went on for years. But thanks to God, I now have two sons who are now grown men. My husband and I adopted them both.God bless their birth mothers. Two children were never more wanted and I cannot express how very lucky were were to be able to adopt them. Better than hitting a huge lotto prize. Better than anything that had ever happened to us. Every life is here to impact others for a purpose God designates. My youngest is now a paramedic who has saved lives in the course of his job. That is making a difference with your life.
My husband died young and unexpectedly, and it was a heartbreak for us. I mostly raised my sons alone. It was not how I pictured my life was going to be and it was a struggle for a long time. We hit many bumps in the road along the way. Fast forward 20 years. My boys are men. I am happy and have friends and activities that , at my lowest point after my husband’s death , I could not have imagined.
Every day gives us a change at a new beginning. Every day is a fresh start. Imagine your future and grab it with both hands. It may take some time but you CAN get there. Please try. Because it’s likely that God plans for you to have a positive impact on others. “How” may not even be evident at this moment. You may be making a difference right now and not know it. Only God can see the whole picture. Our job is to keep trying.
It may be helpful for you to talk to a professional about how you feel. They can give you techniques for handling your relationship with your mother, and help you find your own strong sense of self. Fight for who you want to be. Dont let anyone else paint your own picture.
Remember what they say in the movie,” Its a Wonderful Life”?——- “Strange, isn’t it? Each man’s life touches so many other lives. When he isn’t around, he leaves an awful hole, doesn’t he?”
Stay around and discover who God wants you to be. I will pray for you. Don’t give up. Find a new path. Lean on God, who always loves you.
Please don’t give up in finding the self-esteem God wants for you. Everyone here at CWR among readers and commenters and editors will pray for you.
My own story includes a sadly ignorant father who told me similar things, and rather than encourage me, always told me I’d fail at everything. Well, I acquired four degrees and accomplished much in my field. I was also a successful athlete in my youth. But it did take a long time to have a positive self-image, which only came about after overcoming my atheism. Never lose sight of the fact that God loves you as if you were the only one He ever created.
The greatest souls who ever lived became close to God and many had to overcome backgrounds of tragic hardship. You have my prayers.
Oh dear, God loves you, and I do too. You are not a mistake. Turn to the Blessed Mother and ask for her intercession to help you heal from all that pain.
Please pray for your mother. That you are reading this site shows that you can actually be an example to her and others. We are all praying for you. As many have pointed out here, you are of value to God and will be of value to others in need of one kind of another, even in need of a kind word or a smile or a question of how they are doing. Again, you are of value to God and to your fellow men and women.