
Denver Newsroom, Jan 13, 2021 / 03:01 am (CNA).- This week, scientists discovered an FM radio signal emitting from Ganymede, a moon of Jupiter. No, it’s not aliens blasting some Kanye, NASA said, it is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
But what if scientists someday do discover intelligent extraterrestrials? What would that mean for humans? How would these beings relate to God, and in turn, how would humanity be called to relate to them? Or what if man-made AI started thinking for itself?
These are the kinds of questions that Society of Catholic Scientists will address at their conference in June.
“It’s a very hot subject scientifically now, because scientists have begun to discover large numbers of planets orbiting other stars. They’re called exoplanets…and many of them are habitable in theory,” Stephen Barr, president and co-founder of the Society of Catholic Scientists, told CNA.
“And it’s only going to become a bigger subject scientifically as more and more planets are discovered, and as scientists think of ways to investigate them,” he said.
Barr is professor emeritus in the department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Delaware and former director of its Bartol Research Institute.
He and some fellow Catholic scientists founded the SCS in 2016 with a desire to foster community among Catholic scientists, and to be a resource for Catholic science students and teachers. They also wanted to dispel the myth that Catholicism and science are somehow opposed. “People think that the world of science is completely atheistic, because up until now, atheist scientists have been much more outspoken,” Barr said. “We wanted…to make people aware that there are a lot of religious scientists out there, including a lot of believing Catholics.”
The SCS conference in June will address the topics of extraterrestrial as well as artificial intelligences from all kinds of scientific and theological angles, Barr said, such as whether aliens could have rational souls.
“It’s because we (humans) are free and rational that we are capable of love, and that we are spiritual. And so any being elsewhere in the universe to be a spiritual being…that requires a spiritual soul that is a gift from God. That’s why the Church teaches that every human being, from the first human beings, to every child that’s born or conceived, receives directly from God, – not simply just through the physics and chemistry, the biology of reproduction, but God – must act in a special way to confer a spiritual nature on a being,” Barr said.
The possibility of embodied spiritual beings who are not humans raises a host of additional questions, Barr added. “If there are rational beings elsewhere in the universe… would they be fallen? Would they need salvation?” he said.
Jonathan Lunine is the vice president of SCS and the David C. Duncan professor in the physical sciences of Cornell University and director of the Cornell Center for Astrophysics and Planetary Science. Lunine will be speaking at the SCS June conference about extraterrestrials from an astrophysical perspective.
“One of the things that I actually do work on is the question of whether there’s life elsewhere in the solar system and elsewhere in the cosmos,” Lunine said.
“And my interest in particular is not in looking for advanced civilizations,” he added. “I am interested in finding microbial life elsewhere in our own solar system. And in particular, as a first step, understanding which environments elsewhere in our solar system might support life.”
Lunine said that in the past 25 years, at least three moons in the outer solar system have been discovered to have oceans of liquid under their surfaces. “In the case of one of those, which is underneath the ice of Saturn’s moon Enceladus, that material is actually leaking out into space, it’s spewing out into space in form of water vapor and ice and dust,” he said.
“So we know that that ocean is salty. We know how salty it is. We know it has carbon-bearing molecules. Of course, carbon is the scaffolding of life.”
While microbial life, or any kind of life for that matter, has yet to be discovered in space, Lunine said it would be an “incredible discovery because it would tell us that in just one planetary system, our own in our galaxy, which contains 200 billion stars and probably as many planets, that the universe could be teaming with microbial life.”
As a Catholic, Lunine said the discovery of even microbial life would say something about the nature of God: “that we should not expect that life should have only begun on this planet, in the very same way that we should not expect that the only species of plants and animals that we see today on the earth are all there ever was over 4 billion years of the Earth’s history,” he said.
“Many theologians have pointed out that these wonderful creatures that we see in the fossil records that have evolved through time – that’s part of the super abundance of God’s creation. The same would be true for microbial life elsewhere in the universe.” Lunine said while the search for life is a “bona fide scientific goal,” he would leave most of the theological discussions up to the theologians.
As a practicing Catholic and scientist, Lunine said he hoped students of faith who were studying the sciences would look to SCS and famous scientists of faith to see that faith and science are not in conflict.
“I think many of us who are scientists, who have faith as well, feel that our faith gives us a deeper sense of appreciation for what it is that we’re discovering about the universe or about biology or whatever we’re studying in sciences,” he said.
Karin Öberg is an associate professor in the department of astronomy of Harvard University, and a convert to Catholicism. At the June conference, Öberg will be addressing the question of extraterrestrial intelligence from the perspective of astrochemistry.
The possibility of extraterrestrials “pushes us to think about what it means to be human,” she said. “When we think about intelligent extraterrestrials … it forces us to think about what makes humans special and to remind ourselves what some of the teachings of the Church are on that as well,” she said.
Oberg said one of the most interesting questions raised by the possibility of intelligent life outside of Earth is “if they exist, how that could possibly be reconciled with our salvation through the incarnation? And their possible salvation?”
It is something that the Church has not answered definitively, in part because intelligent extraterrestrials have yet to be discovered, if they exist at all. But Oberg said she and many scientists have an intuition that life does exist outside of the earth, at least in some form.
“I think if you polled scientists, the vast majority would say that they think it’s very likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe and perhaps quite abundantly,” she said.
For Oberg, membership in CSC has provided her with fellowship with other Catholic scientists. It also inspires her “to be a witness to younger Catholics, especially to Catholic students, to show by our lived lives that the faith and science exist quite harmoniously in both our private and professional lives, and that they don’t have to choose.”
She said she often wears a cross in class as part of that witness, to let other students of faith know that they belong in the sciences.
“I was a scientist before I was a Christian or a Catholic,” she said. “So I converted when I was in my late 20s, so after I’d gotten my PhD. I’ve never personally experienced any sense of conflict (between faith and science).”
Oberg said this idea of a faith-science conflict is really a “myth” born out of misunderstanding.
“It comes from, I would say, a misunderstanding either of what the Church teaches or a misunderstanding of what can actually be done with the scientific method, in terms of what things and processes are actually open for scientific investigation,” she said.
“Concepts such as the monotheistic God, or the soul of humans … are not actually open for scientific investigation and therefore not in conflict with scientific investigation.”
Christopher Baglow is the director of the Science and Religion Initiative of the McGrath Institute for Church Life of the University of Notre Dame. He serves as a theologian and liaison for the SCS, and will be speaking at the June conference about the theological questions raised by the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
“What’s exciting to me (about SCS) is that here you have scientists beginning to think seriously about an important truth that animates our faith. And that’s great for them obviously as persons, but also as representatives of the faith in academia,” he said.
Besides the questions about incarnational salvation, Baglow said other interesting questions arise when considering what solidarity with extraterrestrial beings would look like.
Furthermore, he asked, if they are spiritual beings worshipping the triune God, how might their liturgies differ from those here on earth?
“We could imagine that they’re set in a different environment, a different rational species with a different evolutionary history than ours. Their sacraments might be different. What would the sacrament of initiation look like for an aquatic rational species? Would you take them out of the water three times?” he said.
While there are a lot of interesting questions surrounding the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligent beings, Baglow said that Christians can have serenity in the face of these questions.
“We do not need to be disturbed that we’re even asking them, because no matter what new truths we discovered through the use of reason or the use of technology, the truths of the faith will always be greater than them, and able to encompass them in some kind of harmony,” he said.
“One theologian might argue, ‘Well, I think there would be one salvific death for all species.’ Another might argue, like I do: ‘For every fallen species, the Son of God would enter into their actual condition.’”
“As long as we are all affirming the same principles, we can come to a number of different conclusions and have great arguments about it,” he said.
When it comes to artificial intelligences, Baglow said that while those also pose some interesting questions, it is unlikely that the Church would ever say that they have been given souls by God.
“I think that in the case of any AI, you would always have a situation where whatever has the appearance of reason and will would ultimately simply be an extension of the program or of programmers,” he said. “Even in those programs that can learn algorithms…they’re always learning within a certain parameter in which that learning is totally conditioned by the programmers that made it.”
The SCS 20201 conference will be held June 4-6 in Washington, D.C., and interested participants can find registration information on the SCS website.
Barr said he hoped more Catholic scientists would become involved in the society. He also encouraged other Catholics to make use of the resources available on the SCS website, such as biographies of Catholic scientists throughout history, or articles and videos about various topics and commonly asked questions about science and faith.
“One of our four missions is to be a resource for the public on science-based questions, for apologetics and catechetical and evangelization purposes. We want to be available to answer people’s questions. We’re not just for ourselves,” he said.

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She’s an abortion-loving fallen-away Catholic who needs a radical conversion. Until then, she’d be wise to keep her criticisms to herself.
At least Pelosi got the China situation right, though I do find that somewhat surprising. I guess we need to be thankful for small wonders.
ANDREW: The only wonder I’d be thankful for regarding Pelosi is a public confession of her sin against the millions of unborn babies whose murder she gave support to.
“Let me say it this way: ‘Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,’” Pelosi said. And then, ““My Catholic faith is: Christ is my savior. It has nothing to do with the bishops.”
This is the dragon lady who, after 2,000 years of Christianity, said that without first reading the 2,000-page Obamacare bill (2010) Congress had to pass it, because only then could they actually read it to find out what it contained.
Also, the very same Aztec mouthpiece who defended late-term abortions thusly: ““As a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground…” (June 26, 2013).
But, she’s right about the Vatican’s provisional agreement with China. Even a broken watch is right twice a day.
I think I would take offense at that if I were an Aztec. They aren’t the only ethnicity to practice human sacrifice, and they do have their share of Saints, too — St. Juan Diego, for instance. But the main thing is that their worst sins were BEFORE they heard the Gospel, not after.
Which only serves to illustrate the iniquity of the China deal where even a moral lunatic can recognize it. But Francis proclaims it takes a thousand years to understand China, so maybe in another 900 years he’ll begin to come to his senses.
One could say that even Satan is “right” when he ab-uses portions of God’s Word to deceive us humans, but that does not make Satan “right” at all (and is why Jesus forbids demons to bear witness to Him when He casts them out). It is only because of the inherent truth and right-ness of the Word which Satan ab-uses, just it is with his own original nature from God creating him. Our Thrice-Holy God made no mistake in any of His creation, and so God’s original creating of Lucifer as top archangel at the start of creation was right, and the unfaithful-one only became evil by his own self-deceiving self-perverting. This is why Jesus calls him the “father of lies” (because he first lied to himself about God’s Own all-graciousness and will for all creation; so Lucifer coiled in on himself and twisted himself into “Satan” which translates as “Slanderer;” who first slandered God, and then God’s Image and Likeness in us, so he is “Accuser of the brethren”-Rev. 12:9-10). This is what condemns him all the more, and the same then goes for any of us humans when we behave like Satan and use truthful words only to make ourselves look good to gain trust from others only so that we can deceive and manipulate them for our own selfish ends, like Satan does. Pelosi is brazenly showing herself to be on such a path, and so we must pray for God’s humbling of her soul for her own salvation sake, just as we must pray for ourselves to be preserved from the same path each day. Incidentally, this is the mystery of the number of Anti-Christ in sacred numerology. 666 is “the number of man” -Rev 13:18- the number of our human nature self-contentedly coiled in on itself; exalting itself as if able to stand on our own dust and nothing symbolized by the “day” number of our created-ness (6) self-contentedly cut off from our Creator (which is why the 6 is tripled in a mockery of our Maker WHO Alone IS Self-Existing, Triune Divinity in Eternally Loving, Self-outpouring Community of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, blessed and glorified forever! Amen!). St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in this, our battle!
I guess we can add Nancy Pelosi to blind squirrels and broken clocks.
Twisted sister…and twisted Pontiff.
Would Pelosi care to name the priests who were involved in her defiance of the Archbishop? If not, should that tell her something?
There is a typo in the article. Pelosi was Speaker until 2022.
The heretic Pelosi has decreed: If anyone saith that the Pope is infallible as a politician, let him be anathema. 🤦🏼♂️
Ms Pelosi’s description of her Catholic faith sounds more Protestant than Catholic. Kudos though for her attitude to the Vatican’s attitude to China.
That’s unfair to many Protestants.
“Ms Pelosi’s description of her Catholic faith sounds more Protestant than Catholic.”
Not even remotely. Pelosi would be no more welcome in an evangelical church than Satan himself.
Taking Congresswoman Pelosi’s comments with charity, I’m befuddled that she can approach Catholic authority with such sincere duplicity. How she can, in the same interview, both assert the authority of the Bishop of Rome with respect to the Vatican-China deal, to which I nod in agreement, and simultaneously flout the authority of her own bishop with respect to the reception of the Eucharist is a feat of logical gymnastics that I would have imagined to be unthinkable. May God bless her with greater lucidity.
Sometimes lucidity diminishes with advanced age. That’s a charitable view.
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Nancy Pelosi comes from a lineage of devout Catholics. This should remind us all of the necessity to remain vigilant against the deceptions of the Evil One. As Matthew 24:24 warns us, even the elect may be deceived in the last days. It is imperative that we, as individuals, remain steadfastly united to and with Jesus Christ and the truths of His gospel.
We should pray fervently for those who have been led astray or have embraced heresy. It is crucial to minimize the attention given to such individuals and instead, focus on those who exemplify a life of virtue and faith. These are the ones who can inspire us and provide a worthy example for our children and grandchildren.
Her time is passed, and she obviously is in need of our prayers.
I think Matthew 12:43-45 fits better.
I think she is a “Spirit of VII Catholic”. Her time has passed, along with that “spirit”.
That spirit was around long before Vatican II, and it will remain active — with more success or less success — until the Last Judgement. I mean, just look around: Gnosticism and Arianism are still with us.
Cleo: I wish that were true. There are a sprinkling of Catholics who now know that dissenting from Humanae Vitae was a mistake. But the fact remains that the vast majority of Catholics rejected it and continue to do so. And it is debatable of whether a majority of Catholics hold any more opposition to abortion than Pelosi.
Well, up to now, the Pope has met all Nancy’s prerequisites for being her man in Rome. Now she pulls rank on him and let’s him know who, in her mind at least, is the real boss (clue: the real boss doesn’t dress in white). Perhaps Francis should take to heart the adage about lying with dogs gets one fleas. These two are actually perfect matches. She’s the absolute worst Speaker in US history and he’s the absolute worst pope in Catholic history.
I agree with those who say the Archbishop has to have a chat with the Bishops and priests who report to him. And not in a friendly way. If these priests pledge obedience when ordained, they are off the mark by a long-shot by helping Pelosi obtain Communion, and need to be spoken to. And then meaningful action needs to take place if they continue to shrug off the position Pelosi has put herself in regarding her outspoken support of no-holds-barred abortion. Failing to do this makes any church pronouncement on morals or anything else meaningless. An action, especially a sinful action, needs to have a consequence. The Eucharist is not a party favor and Pelosi is NOT entitled to it no matter her state of soul. It DOES matter. That goes for ALL of us, not just Pelosi. But she doesnt get to be exempt from holding to church standards just because she is a widely known politician.Further, in being OPENLY defiant of the Archbishop, she is further undermining the authority of the church.
This silly and very naive woman still believes that all is well between her and God, REALLY!!!!! This is what the sin against the Holy Ghost looks like!!! Repent!!
Not to judge Nancy Pelosi, I’ll refrain from saying that, based on her comments here and elsewhere she perceives moral issues as political matters. Good Archbishop Cordileone wasted a lot of roses. Only our prayers can help her.
She’d likely need to get knocked off her high horse to be helped, but you never know.
Unfortunately, with rare exceptions, almost all Catholics I meet outside my affinity groups of pro-life orthodox Catholic friends, hold beliefs little different than Pelosi. They seem to believe all Catholic doctrine and dogma is political.
for a woman who is a staunch abortioniist I would suggest that she keep her opinions to herself.
To quote either Dear Abby or Anne Landers (from many years back) – “Madame Congresswoman, you have a point, but if you keep your hat on maybe no one will notice.”
I LOVE it when I have an opportunity to say that. Admittedly in these times there is a plethora (another favorite word) of times when such a statement fits, so one must choose carefully, and this is surely one of those times.
Eph 6:10ff – “Brothers and Sisters, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day…”
Thank you for the article showing Pelosi standing up for her Catholic faith.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Pelosi might be correct about the Vatican-China deal, but her stance on abortion completely undermines her credibility as a Catholic. She needs serious spiritual reflection.