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Fr. James Martin is not thinking with the Church

What Fr. Martin writes and says seems guided more by GLAAD than by God, and is more aligned to the thinking of the World than the Word.

A screenshot of Fr. James Martin, S.J., giving a March 2018 a presentation titled "Spiritual Insights for LGBT Catholics". (YouTube)

Last Thursday, before the bombshell that dropped on Saturday, Fr. James Martin, S.J., gave a much-anticipated (and protested) talk at the Vatican’s World Meeting of Families in Dublin, Ireland. The title of the talk was “How Parishes Can Welcome L.G.B.T. Catholics”. In his talk, Fr. Martin addressed familiar themes to those who have read his 2017 book, Building a Bridge. Whether one agrees with him or not, Fr. Martin’s is an influential voice in the current conversation about how the Church should minister to “LGBT Catholics”.

In his talk, Fr. Martin called for a more pastoral response to those who consider themselves LGBT. He rightly denounced the tragic way LGBT Catholics and their families have at times been treated in the Church. The stories he tells reveal shameful spiritual abuse of God’s children. As the Catechism makes clear:

[Those with deep-seated homosexual tendencies] must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. (par 2358)

We need to ensure that people are treated justly, and with true pastoral charity. Sadly, though, the horror stories Fr. Martin recounts are not the only ones that could be told. Consider, for example, what Joseph Sciambra reported in his recent First Things article. He described conversations he had with priests about his same-sex attraction, beginning when he was sixteen. The first priest he spoke to told him that God had made him gay, and that he should act “responsibly.” A few years later, he went and talked with another one.

He offered the same advice the first priest had, but he added that I needed to settle down with one partner. I tried that, too. But I don’t believe I made any major lifestyle changes on the basis of what these priests told me. For the most part, my mind was already made up: I believed I had been born gay. Whether or not some God had made me that way, I didn’t really care. In one sense, these priests had made my life easier by confirming what I already thought. Yet at sixteen, when I talked to that first priest, I had secretly wanted him to say something else. I had wanted him to be strong—I had wanted him to rescue me from myself.

In his texts and tweets, however, Fr. Martin never seems to acknowledge horror stories of this sort.

Sciambra’s experience is not unique. My brother Dan Mattson, who wrote the 2017 book Why I Don’t Call Myself Gay: How I Reclaimed My Sexual Reality and Found Peace, told me that a priest to whom he confessed his same-sex sins advised him to “Go find a boyfriend.” Such priests, no doubt, believe they are helping men like Joseph and my brother. But it’s not true. They wanted, and deserved, the truth. Instead they were encouraged to keep on sinning. Sciambra concludes his article with these sobering and accurate words:

. . . imagine the damage Fr. Martin’s words will do to the countless young people who earnestly attend the World Meeting of Families. If the Church wants to show true respect, compassion, and sensitivity to homosexual persons, it must offer them the words of Christ—not Fr. Martin’s false comfort.

The major theme of Fr. Martin’s talks, tweets, and articles is a celebration of all things LGBT (including even Gay Pride events). His efforts seem focused on helping the Church “get with the times” regarding matters LGBT, with a heavy emphasis on avoiding any potential hurt feelings among those who don’t believe the Church’s teaching. He is even on record asking priests to “come out as celibate gay priests,” to normalize “being gay”.

Given what he has written and said, I don’t doubt that Fr. Martin would have responded much the same way that these priests responded to Joseph and my brother. Take, for example, the advice he gave in his WMOF talk. The second “fundamental insight” he offers is “They do not choose their orientation.” I suspect he would recommend that Joseph and Dan acknowledge that God made them gay. But Joseph and Dan don’t believe that.

Given the ideological circles in which Fr. Martin runs and the ministries he supports, it is easy to infer how he would answer almost any question about sexual morality. That’s because what Fr. Martin writes and says seems guided more by GLAAD than by God, and is more aligned to the thinking of the World than the Word.

Fr. Martin has, simply put, adopted and “baptized” the talking points of LGBT activists. He’s foisting on the Church recommendations that the world has developed in reaction to the Church’s age-old teaching about human sexuality. That’s why I would half-expect Fr. Martin to claim, as many others have, that Joseph and Dan must surely suffer from “internalized homophobia” simply because they are unwilling to describe themselves as “gay” and are unwilling to believe that God made them that way.

Dan recently experienced a host of such comments in response to his First Things article, in which he argued that the Church shouldn’t ordain men like him (i.e., those who are same-sex attracted). Several commenters spewed venom, while others offered him hope that he might someday come to love himself. They seemed not to have sufficient imagination, and perhaps Fr. Martin lacks it too, to believe that Catholics like Joseph and my brother might actually find the Church’s perennial teaching on human sexuality Good News.

This week I find myself wondering again whether Fr. Martin has read Dan’s book. I suspect not. But he should. In the Church today, we are grappling, obviously enough, with grave sins committed by “gay priests” and bishops. Despite his notoriety, Fr. Martin doesn’t help us think deeply about the relevant questions. At all. That’s because he doesn’t talk seriously about chastity, or what it takes to live chaste lives. He focuses instead on feelings.

Dan’s book, on the other hand, engages deeply the Church and the salient questions of our day. His book is not sentimental. It is a hard-hitting treatment of the ideology that drives much of the current debate about matters LGBT. His argument is compelling, and his summary of Church teaching, drawing as it does on Scripture, the Church Fathers, Magisterial Teaching, and the witness of the Saints, is rich and deep. Simply put, his book offers important answers from Scripture and Tradition to the culture’s press for acceptance and celebration of all things LGBT. It also provides an answer to Fr. Martin from the perspective of the Church.

Dan and Joseph, like the Courage/EnCourage International apostolate of which they are members, like the Catechism, like the Scriptures, embrace the beautiful vision of human sexuality offered us by the Lord through the Church. Is it a difficult teaching? Of course it is. But it’s not the only one. As we read last Sunday, Peter, thinking with the Church, got it right. “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of everlasting life.”

A few months back, when I first heard that Fr. Martin had been invited to gave a talk at the World Meeting of Families, I, like many priests and lay faithful, was disheartened. And angry. That’s because he simply does not think with the Church. I had long-suspected, as many have, that Fr. Martin has been propped up by gay-agenda promoting bishops and cardinals. Archbishop Viganò’s recent allegations help makes sense of why and how that might have happened. (May the truth all come out.)

Prior to the news about McCarrick, Pennsylvania, and the release of Viganò’s “testimony,” the question I found myself repeatedly asking was “What’s next?” I had concerns about the World Meeting of Families, of course, and it seemed clear that the upcoming Synod on Youth could easily be manipulated to make the Church’s teaching more “palatable” to the youth. Sadly, over the past few years, it has often seemed that the “innovators” had the wind at their backs.

Today, however, precisely because of the scandal we are suffering, the winds have changed. Jesus, who told us never to fear, is truly at work, exposing lies, secrets, and actions of shepherds who have “shepherded themselves on their sheep.” My prayer is that the Barque of Peter will, indeed, be righted once again and travel safely in the winds of the Spirit. May all our shepherds, from highest to the lowest, do what every good Jesuit commits himself to do: Think with the Church!

About Fr. Steve Mattson 1 Article
Fr. Steve Mattson is Pastor of the Church of the Resurrection in Lansing, Michigan, and Courage Chaplain for the Diocese of Lansing.


  1. Prior to Supreme Court Justice Kennedy writing the inventive majority opinion of Obergfell v. Hodges (the gay “marriage” ruling), a number of states already had voted in this direction under the “civil rights” (rites?) branding. The first with a public vote (and the first in world history) was Washington State, where a state legislative action was contested by a failed public initiative for reversal. As for the kind of sympathizing deceit peddled there and today by Fr. James Martin, get this:

    “During testimony at a public legislative hearing in Washington State in 2012, your author witnessed a key speaker in favor of a proposed gay “marriage” bill. Here was a quite handsome young man in white shirt and tie whose parents divorced when he was twelve. Betrayed with poor nurturing, the young man is stuck in a zone where he chooses to live in a physically intimate relationship with a same-sex father figure. He would do this rather than be a father himself in a real marriage between a man and a woman. And he wants validation under state law. His being deprived of real nurturing is the problem, and yet we are tutored that as the solution this pattern should be (and is now) legalized—and imposed on all of society as the new worldview. Only moments before in the crowded front of the chamber two sympathetic male staffers, also in white shirts and ties, embraced each other with prolonged excitement, each chortling aloud without blushing, ‘I have ‘straight’ love. . . .'”

    That some of the careerist leadership inside the Church would naively, stupidly, or cleverly enable the Martin culture-war agenda is an incompetence and betrayal of historic proportions. But with the Vigano disclosure, it’s now less the beginning of the end than the end of the beginning—-at last, real cause for hope!

    The above is an excerpt from my recent book on the culture wars: “A GENERATION ABANDONED—Why “Whatever” Is Not Enough.” Here’s the link for the Catholic World Report author interview:

  2. It is GOOD that the RCC and her community of intellects are resorting to true Magisterium teachings to rebut the lies that have pushed the Church into these crises, but, it isn’t enough.

    If the truth is going to be used to push Satan back into his domain, and out of our Church and culture, we need to also use secular arguments (scientific objective truths) to help reveal the Truth of Jesus Christ to secularists.

    Aberrant behaviors, including and especially homosexuality, is thoroughly contradictory to the optimal fitness of all species (at every level from the individual, to the family, to the community, to the population and the species.

    The fitness of homo sapiens is inextricably linked to the fitness of the individual, the population, and the community, therefore, anything that promotes the unfitness of the individual (eg. homosexuality) within any given social structure (family, community, population) is a threat to humanity. This is an incontrovertible scientific fact, and it must be taught to the population, concurrent with all of God’s truths.

    We must use all the tools (talents) in our toolbox, as gifted to us, by God to effectively battle and conquer Satan.

  3. Sexuality is a creation of Almighty God and is sacramentalized in Holy Matrimony. In that context it is an efficacious sign instituted by God to confer Grace.
    In that light James Martin’s attempt to equate same-sex attraction and expression with well-ordered heterosexuality can be seen as not merely heretical but sacrilegious as well. In fact, perhaps that understanding could be rendered to the adoption of heterosexual expression outside of monogamous marriage as well. Saint Paul’s equation of the disorder in question with idolatry has a certain resonance in our own time.
    Even if in light of “contemporary experience” the competent authorities understood that this human dilemma required an adjusted mode of address, one would expect the discussion and research to be accomplished with the greatest discretion. As it is, contemporary experience has proved full well that the Church’s estimation of the disorder is sound. That the ecclesiastical superiors of this rogue priest have not called him to order – we are well beyond the point where a punitive intervention is required – bespeaks their own disorientation and the abandonment of the Gospel imperative for lives of virtue. Their complicity in giving leash to the justification to immorality makes them as guilty of pastoral malpractice as James Martin.
    Now the chickens are really coming home to roost. Their deposit most frequently is not nutritional, and are not up to our necks this week.

  4. Rather strange that Fr. Martin seems to feel that he is God’s anointed with the assigned mission to change moral thinking in the Church. Last person I recall hearing about with that sort of mind set was John Brown and he garbled the message pretty badly.

  5. James Martin is “not thinking with the Church” because he is homosexualist heretic and avid promoter of a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance. He should be laicized and excommunicated as such.

  6. I am disgusted by the author’s obstinate misunderstandings of sexuality and ungodly homophobic language. First, the personal anecdotes of two people who have power to think rationally and make their own decisions are not representative of the LGBT+ community as a whole, so one should never use them to make general and wide reaching statements such as those made here. Pope John Paul II acknowledged that homosexual orientation is usually not a matter of choice, which brings me to the second point, the unacceptable use of homophobic language. All human beings are created in the image and likeness of God. I am horribly upset that an author who writes under the name of “Fr. Steve Mattson” – presumably a priest, and someone who should be the face of Christ to others would write in such a way. He shudders at the concept of normalizing “being gay” meanwhile multiple Pope’s have already acknowledged that it is. Gay people are real. God created them. No one has a right to treat them differently than anyone else. Treating them as less and using disrespectful language towards that group of people does not stem from the gospel. That is not Jesus’ mission at all. My Lord and savior didn’t brutally die on the cross for people to judge others, make assumptions, and say that they can’t be normal. Jesus touched the leapers. He ate with the sinners and tax collectors. What this author wrote is the opposite of that. I’m also upset that a so called “moderated” discussion board would allow even worse evil, homophobic language to remain on a site that bears the name “Catholic” in any way. God bless you all. Lord knows I will pray for you because this has to change.

    • Love the sinner. Hate the sin. Christ forgave sin AND THEN COMMANDED, “Sin no more.” Everything I find about James Martin is that he loves the sin. Would you welcome murders and rapists in the Church who promote murder and rape? I don’t see people having extra marital affairs bragging about it at Church. Yet James Martin seems to be proud of the LGBT people who promoted their sinful activity instead of repenting for sin. LGBT affairs are sinful. Can any true Catholic or Christian of any denomination promote a sinful lifestyle? No. To do so is in direct opposition to Christ. Therefor, not a Christian!

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