Pope Francis led the opening procession of the Synod of Bishops for the Pan-Amazon Region from St. Peter’s Basilica to the Synod Hall where he led the opening prayer, Oct. 7, 2019. / null
CNA Newsroom, Jul 8, 2023 / 08:30 am (CNA).
The Vatican has published the names of those participating in the upcoming Synod on Synodality assembly in October, including laypeople who will be full voting delegates at a Catholic Church synod for the first time.
The delegates are made up of representatives selected by bishops’ conferences and Eastern Catholic Churches, leaders in the Roman Curia, and 120 delegates personally selected by Pope Francis.
In total, 363 people will be able to vote in the 16th Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, according to statistics released by the Holy See Press Office on July 7. Among them, 54 of the voting delegates are women.
In addition to the voting members, 75 other participants have been invited to the synod assembly to act as facilitators, experts, or spiritual assistants.
Here is full list of participants:
President
Pope Francis
General Secretary
Cardinal Mario Grech of Malta
President’s Delegates
His Beatitude Ibrahim Isaac Sedrak, Patriarch of Alexandria, head of the Synod of The Coptic Catholic Church, Egypt.
Cardinal Carlos Aguiar Retes, Archbishop of Mexico City, Mexico
Archbishop Gerardo Cabrera Herrera, O.F.M., of Guayaquil, Ecuador
Archbishop Timothy John Costelloe, S.D.B., of Perth, Australia
Bishop Daniel Ernest Flores of Brownsville, Texas, USA
Bishop Lúcio Andrice Muandula of Xai-Xai, Mozambique
Father Giuseppe Bonfrate (Italy)
Sister Maria De Los Dolores Palencia, C.S.J., Mexico
Momoko Nishimura, S.E.M.D. (Japan)
General Relator
Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich, S.J., Archbishop of Luxembourg
Special Secretaries
Father Giacomo Costa, S.J., Italy, president of Fondazione Culturale San Fedele of Milan, national spiritual companion of the Italian Christian Workers Associations
Father Riccardo Battocchio, Italy, Rector of the Almo Collegio Capranica, president of the Italian Theological Association
Commission for Information
President: Paolo Ruffini, Prefect of the Dicastery for Communication, Vatican City
Secretary: Sheila Leocádia Pires, communications officer, Southern African Catholic Bishops’ Conference (SACBC), Mozambique
From the Eastern Catholic Churches
His Beatitude Ibrahim Isaac Sedrak, Coptic Church Patriarch of Alexandria, head of the Synod of the Coptic Catholic Church
His Beatitude Youssef Absi, patriarch of Antioch of the Greek-Melkites, head of the Synod of the Greek Melkite Catholic Church
His Beatitude Ignace Youssef Iii Younan, Patriarch of Antioch of the Syrians, head of the Synod of the Syrian Catholic Church
Cardinal Béchara Boutros Raï, O.M.M., Patriarch of Antioch of the Maronites, head of the Synod of the Maronite Church
Bishop Mounir Khairallah of Batrun of the Maronites
Cardinal Louis Raphaël I Sako, Patriarch of Babylon of the Chaldeans, head of the Synod of the Chaldean Church
His Beatitude Raphaël Bedros XXI Minassian, I.C.P.B., Patriarch of Cilicia of Armenians, head of the Synod of the Armenian Catholic Church
His Beatitude Sviatoslav Shevchuk, Major Archbishop of Kyiv-Halyc, Kyiv, head of the Synod of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church
Bishop Teodor Martynyuk, M.S.U., Titular Bishop of Mopta, auxiliary bishop of Ternopil-Zboriv
Monsignor Bohdan Dzyurakh, C.SS.R., Apostolic Exarch of Germany and Scandinavia, Titular Bishop of Vagada
Cardinal George Alencherry, Major Archbishop of Ernakulam-Angamaly, head of the Synod of the Syro-Malabar Church
Metropolitan Archbishop Andrews Thazhath of Trichur, president of the Catholic bishops’ conference of India
Archbishop Joseph Pamplany of Tellicherry, India
His Beatitude Cardinal Baselios Cleemis Thottunkal, head of the Synod of the Syro-Malankara Church
Bishop Cristian Dumitru Crişan, Titular Bishop of Abula, Auxiliary Bishop of Fagaras Si Alba Iulia Dei Romanians
Cardinal Berhaneyesus Demerew Souraphiel, Metropolitan Archbishop of Addis Abeba, president of the Ethiopian and Eritrean bishops’ conference, president of the Council of the Ethiopian Church
Metropolitan Archbishop William Charles Skurla of the Byzantine Archeparchy of Pittsburgh, president of the Council of the Ruthenian Church
Bishop Milan Lach, S.J., auxiliary bishop of Bratislava, Slovakia
Metropolitan Archbishop Menghesteab Tesfamariam of Asmara, president of the Council of the Eritrean Church
Metropolitan Archbishop Fülöp Kocsis of Hajdúdorog for the Byzantine Catholics, president of the Council of the Hungarian Church
Episcopal Conferences
Africa
Northern Africa (CERNA)
Cardinal Cristóbal López Romero, S.D.B., Archbishop of Rabat, Morocco
Angola and Sao Tome
Bishop Joaquim Nhanganga Tyombe of of Uíje, Angola
Benin
Archbishop Coffi Roger Anoumou, Bishop of Lokossa
Botswana, South Africa, and Eswatini
Archbishop Anton Dabula Mpako, Archbishop of Pretoria, Military Ordinary of South Africa
Burkina Faso and Niger
Archbishop Gabriel Sayaogo of Koupéla, Burkina Faso
Burundi
Archbishop Georges Bizimana, Bishop of Ngozi
Cameroon
Archbishop Emmanuel Dassi Youfang of Bafia
Bishop Philippe Alain Mbarga, of Ebolowa
Chad
Bishop Nicolas Nadji Bab of Laï
Republic of Congo
Bishop Ildevert Mathurin Mouanga of Kinkala
Democratic Republic of Congo
Archbishop Marcel Utembi Tapa of Kisangani
Bishop Pierre-Célestin Tshitoko Mamba of Luebo
Côte D’ivoire (Ivory Coast)
Archbishop Marcellin Kouadio Yao of Daloa
Ethiopia
Archbishop Markos Ghebremedhin, C.M., Apostolic Vicar of Jimma-Bonga, Titular Bishop of Gummi of Proconsulari
Gabon
Archbishop Jean-Patrick Iba-Ba of Libreville
Gambia and Sierra Leone
Archbishop Edward Tamba Charles of Freetown, Sierra Leone
Ghana
Bishop Emmanuel Kofi Fianu, S.V.D., of Ho
Archbishop Gabriel Charles Palmer-Buckle of Cape Coast
Guinea
Archbishop Vincent Coulibaly, of Conarkry
Equatorial Guinea
Bishop Juan Domingo-Beka Esono Ayang, C.M.F., of Mongomo, president of the Episcopal Conference
Kenya
Archbishop Martin Kivuva Musonde of Mombasa, president of the Episcopal Conference
Archbishop Anthony Muheria of Nyeri
Lesotho
Bishop John Joale Tlhomola, S.C.P., of Mohale’s Hoek
Liberia
Bishop Anthony Fallah Borwah of Gbarnga
Madagascar
Auxiliary Bishop Jean Pascal Andriantsoavina of Antananavarivo, Titular Bishop of Zallata
Malawi
Archbishop George Desmond Tambala, O.C.D., of Lilongwe, Apostolic Administrator of Zomba
Mali
Bishop Hassa Florent Koné of San
Mozambique
Archbishop Inácio Saure, I.M.C., of Nampula
Namibia
Archbishop Liborius Ndumbukuti Nashenda, O.M.I., of Windhoek
Nigeria
Bishop Donatus Aihmiosion Ogun, O.S.A., of Uromi
Archbishop Ignatius Ayau Kaigama of Abuja
Archbishop Lucius Iwejuru Ugorji of Owerri
Indian Ocean (CEDOI)
Bishop Alain Harel of Port Victoria
Central African Republic
Bishop Nestor-Désiré Nongo-Aziagbia, S.M.A., of Bossangoa
Rwanda
Bishop Edouard Sinayobye of Cyangugu
Senegal, Mauritania, Cape Verde, and Guinea-Bissau
Bishop Ildo Augusto Dos Santos Lopes Fortes of Mindelo, Cape Verde
Sudan
Archbishop Stephen Ameyu Martin Mulla of Juba, South Sudan
Tanzania
Archbishop Jude Thaddaeus Ruwa’ichi, O.F.M. Cap., of Dar-Es-Salaam
Bishop Flavian Kassala of Geita
Togo
Bishop Dominique Banlène Guigbile of Dapaong
Uganda
Bishop Sanctus Lino Wanok of Lira
Zambia
Archbishop Ignatius Chama of Kasama
Zimbabwe
Bishop Raphael Macebo Mabuza Ncube of Hwange
Americas
Antilles
Archbishop Charles Jason Gordon of Porto of Spain
Argentina
Bishop Óscar Vicente Ojea of San Isidro
Archbishop Marcelo Daniel Colombo of Mendoza
Archbishop Carlos Alfonso Azpiroz Costa, O.P. of Bahía Blanca
Bolivia
Bishop Pedro Luis Fuentes Valencia, C.P., of La Paz, Titular Bishop of Temuniana
Brazil
Archbishop Emeritus Geraldo Lyrio Rocha of Mariana
Bishop Joel Portella Amado of São Sebastião do Rio De Janeiro, Titular Bishop of Carmeiano
Bishop Pedro Carlos Cipollini of Santo André
Archbishop Leonardo Ulrich Steiner, O.F.M., of Manaus
Bishop Dirceu De Oliveira Medeiros of Camaçari
Canada
Bishop Marc Pelchat of Québec, Titular Bishop of Lambesi
Bishop Raymond Poisson of Saint-Jérôme-Mont-Laurier
Archbishop John Michael Miller, C.S.B., of Vancouver
Bishop William Terrence Mcgrattan of Calgary
Chile
Archbishop Luis Fernando Ramos Pérez of Puerto Montt
Bishop Carlos Alberto Godoy Labraña of Santiago de Chile, Titular Bishop of Pudenziana
Colombia
Archbishop Luis José Rueda Aparicio of Bogotá
Archbishop Ricardo Antonio Tobón Restrepo of Medellín
Archbishop José Miguel Gómez Rodríguez of Manizales
Costa Rica
Bishop Javier Gerardo Román Arias of Limón
Cuba
Bishop Marcos Pirán of Holguín, Titular Bishop of Boseta
Ecuador
Archbishop Luis Gerardo Cabrera Herrera, O.F.M., of Guayaquil
Bishop David Israel De La Torre Altamirano, Ss.Cc., of Quito, Titular Bishop of Bagai
El Salvador
Bishop William Ernesto Iraheta Rivera of Santiago De María
Guatemala
Bishop Juan Manuel Cuá Ajacúm of Los Altos, Titular Bishop of Rosella
Haiti
Archbishop Launay Saturné of Cap-Haïtie, president of the Episcopal Conference
Honduras
Archbishop José Vicente Nácher Tatay, C.M., of Tegucigalpa
Mexico
Bishop Gerardo Díaz Vázquez of Tacámbaro
Bishop Oscar Efraín Tamez Villarreal of Ciudad Victoria
Archbishop Faustino Armendáriz Jiménez of Durango
Bishop Adolfo Miguel Castaño Fonseca of Azcapotzalco
Nicaragua
Bishop Sócrates René Sándigo Jirón of León
Panama
Bishop Edgardo Cedeño Muñoz, S.V.D. of Penonomé
Paraguay
Bishop Miguel Ángel Cabello Almada of Concepción En Paraguay
Peru
Archbishop Héctor Miguel Cabrejos Vidarte, O.F.M., of Trujillo
Bishop Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova, O.S.A., Bishop Prelate of Chuquibambilla
Cardinal Archbishop Pedro Ricardo Barreto Jimeno, S.J., of Huancayo
Puerto Rico
Bishop Rubén Antonio González Medina, C.M.F., of Ponce
Dominican Republic
Bishop Ramón Alfredo De La Cruz Baldera of San Francisco De Macorís
United States of America
Bishop Timothy Broglio, Military Ordinary of the United States of America
Bishop Daniel Ernest Flores of Brownsville, Texas
Bishop Robert Emmet Barron of Winona-Rochester, Minnesota
Bishop Kevin Carl Rhoades of Fort Wayne-South Bend, Indiana
Cardinal Timothy Michael Dolan, Archbishop of New York
Uruguay
Bishop Milton Luis Tróccoli Cebedio of Maldonado-Punta Del Este-Minas
Venezuela
Bishop Juan Carlos Bravo Salazar of Petare
Archbishop José Luis Azuaje Ayala of Maracaibo
Asia
Central Asia
Cardinal Giorgio Marengo, I.M.C., Apostolic Prefect of Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
Bangladesh
Archbishop Bejoy Nicephorus D’cruze, O.M.I., of Dhaka
China (Chinese Regional Bishops’ Conference)
Bishop Norbert Pu of Kiayi, Taiwan
Korea
Archbishop Peter Chung Soon-Taick, O.C.D., of Seoul
Philippines
Bishop Pablo Virgilio S. David of Kalookan
Cardinal Archbishop Jose F. Advincula of Manila
Bishop Mylo Hubert C. Vergara of Pasig
Japan
Archbishop Tarcisio Isao Kikuchi, S.V.D., of Tokyo
India (CCBI)
Cardinal Filipe Neri António Sebastião Do Rosário Ferrão, Archbishop of Goa and Damão
Archbishop George Antonysamy of Madras and Mylapore
Bishop Alex Joseph Vadakumthala of Kannur
Cardinal Anthony Poola, Archbishop of Hyderabad
Indonesia
Bishop Antonius Subianto Bunjamin, O.S.C., of Bandung
Bishop Adrianus Sunarko, O.F.M., of Pangkalpinang
Iran
Archbishop Dominique Mathieu, O.F.M. Conv., of Tehran-Ispahan of the Latins
Laos and Cambodia
Father Enrique Figaredo Alvargonzalez, S.J., Apostolic Prefect of Battambang, Cambodia
Malaysia-Singapore-Brunei
Cardinal William Seng Chye Goh, Archbishop of Singapore
Myanmar
Bishop John Saw Yaw Han of Kengtung
Arab countries
Monsignor Paolo Martinelli, O.F.M. Cap., Apostolic Vicar of South Arabia
Pakistan
Monsignor Khalid Rehmat, O.F.M. Cap., Apostolic Vicar of Quetta
Sri Lanka
Bishop Raymond Kingsley Wickramasinghe of Galle
Thailand
Cardinal Francis Xavier Kriengsak Kovithavanij, Archbishop of Bangkok
East Timor
Cardinal Virgilio Do Carmo Da Silva, S.D.B., Archbishop of Díli
Vietnam
Bishop Joseph Đo Manh Hùng of Phan Thiêt
Bishop Louis Nguyên Anh Tuán of Hà Tinh
Europe
Albania
Archbishop Arjan Dodaj, F.D.C., of Tiranë-Durrës
Austria
Archbishop Franz Lackner, O.F.M., of Salzburg
Belgium
Bishop Koenraad Vanhoutte of Mechelen-Brussels, Titular Bishop of Tagora
Belarus
Bishop Aliaksandr Yasheuski, S.D.B., of Minsk-Mohilev, Titular Bishop of Fornos Major
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bishop Marko Semren, O.F.M., of Banja Luka, Titular Bishop of Abaradira
Bulgaria
Bishop Strahil Veselinov Kavalenov of Nicopolis
The Czech Republic
Bishop Zdenek Wasserbauer of Praha, Titular Bishop of Butrint
International Episcopal Conference of Sts. Cyril and Methodius
Archbishop Ladislav Nemet, S.V.D., of Beograd, Serbia, president of the Episcopal Conference
Croatia
Bishop Ivan Ćurić, Auxiliary of Ðakovo-Osijek, Titular Bishop of Tela
Russian Federation
Archbishop Paolo Pezzi, F.S.C.B., of Mother of God in Moscow
France
Bishop Alexandre Joly of Troyes
Bishop Jean-Marc Eychenne of Grenoble-Vienne
Bishop Matthieu Rougé of Nanterre
Bishop Benoît Bertrand of Mende
Germany
Bishop Georg Bätzing of Limburg
Bishop Bertram Johannes Meier of Augsburg
Bishop Franz-Josef Overbeck of Essen, Military Ordinary for the Federal Republic of Germany
Great Britain (England & Wales)
Archbishop John Wilson of Southwark
Bishop Marcus Stock of Leeds
Great Britain (Scotland)
Bishop Brian Mcgee of Argyll and the Isles
Greece
Archbishop Georgios Altouvas of Corfu, Zakynthos, and Kefalonia
Ireland
Bishop Brendan Leahy of Limerick
Bishop Alexander Aloysius McGuckian, S.J., of Raphoe
Italy
Archbishop Roberto Repole of Turin, Bishop of Susa
Bishop Franco Giulio Brambilla of Novara
Archbishop Bruno Forte of Chieti-Vasto
Archbishop Domenico Battaglia of Naples
Archbishop Mario Enrico Delpini of Milan
Latvia
Archbishop Zbigņev Stankevičs of Riga
Lithuania
Bishop Algirdas Jurevičius of Telšiai
Malta
Archbishop Charles Jude Scicluna of Malta
Netherlands
Bishop Theodorus Cornelis Maria Hoogenboom of Utrecht, Titular Bishop of Bistue
Poland
Archbishop Stanisław Gądecki of Poznań
Archbishop Adrian Józef Galbas, S.A.C., Coadjutor Archbishop of Katowice
Archbishop Marek Jędraszewski of Kraków
Portugal
Bishop Virgílio do Nascimento Antunes of Coimbra
Bishop José Ornelas Carvalho, S.C.I., of Leiria-Fátima
Romania
Archbishop Gergely Kovács of Alba Iulia, Apostolic Administrator, Ad Nutum Sanctæ Sedis of the Ordinariate for Catholics of the Armenian Rite residing in Romania
Scandinavia
Bishop Czeslaw Kozon of København, Denmark
Slovakia
Bishop Marek Forgáč of Košice, Titular Bishop of Seleuciana
Slovenia
Bishop Maksimilijan Matjaž of Celje
Spain
Archbishop Vicente Jiménez Zamora, Archbishop Emeritus of Zaragoza
Archbishop Luis Javier Argüello García of Valladolid
Bishop Francisco Simón Conesa Ferrer of Solsona
Switzerland
Bishop Felix Gmür of Basel
Turkey
Bishop Massimiliano Palinuro, Apostolic Vicar of Istanbul, Apostolic Administrator Vacant See of the Apostolic Exarchate of Istanbul
Ukraine
Bishop Oleksandr Yazlovetskiy of Kyiv-Zhytomyr, Titular Bishop of Tulana
Hungary
Bishop Gábor Mohos Mohos of Esztergom-Budapest, Titular Bishop of Iliturgi
Oceania
Australia
Archbishop Patrick Michael O’Regan of Adelaide
Bishop Shane Anthony Mackinlay of Sandhurst
New Zealand
Archbishop Paul Gerard Martin, S.M., Coadjutor of Wellington
Pacific
Bishop Paul Patrick Donoghue, S.M., of Rarotonga, Cook Islands
Papua New Guinea and Solomon Islands
Bishop Dariusz Piotr Kałuża, M.S.F., of Bougainville
Bishops Without an Episcopal Conference
Europe
Archbishop Selim Jean Sfeir of Cyprus of the Maronites
Presidents of International Meetings of Episcopal Conferences
Symposium of Episcopal Conferences of Africa And Madagascar (SECAM)
Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo Besungu, O.F.M. Cap.
Federation of Asian Bishops’ Conferences (FABC)
Cardinal Charles Maung Bo, S.D.B.
Federation of Catholic Bishops’ Conferences of Oceania (FCBCO)
Bishop Antony Randazzo
Council of Bishops’ Conferences of Europe (CCEE)
Bishop Gintaras Grušas
Latin American Bishops’ Council (CELAM)
Bishop Jaime Spengler, O.F.M.
The Union of Superiors General and the International Union of Superiors General
Sister Nadia Coppa, A.S.C., president of the International Union of Superiors General (UISG)
Sister Elizabeth Mary Davis, R.S.M.
Brother Mark Hilton, S.C., Superior General of the Brothers of the Sacred Heart
Sister Elysée Izerimana, Op. S.D.N., General Councilor of the Working Sisters of the Holy House of Nazareth
Abbot Mauro-Giuseppe Lepori, O. Cist., Abbot General of the Cistercian Order
Sister Patricia Murray, I.B.V.M., executive secretary of the International Union of Superiors General (UISG)
Sister Maria Nirmalini, A.C., Superior General of the Sisters of the Apostolic Carmelite Order
Brother Ernesto Sánchez, F.M.S., Superior General of the Marist Brothers
Father Arturo Sosa, S.I., Superior General of the Society of Jesus
Father Gebresilasie Tadesse Tesfaye, M.C.C.J., Superior General of the Comboni Missionaries of the Heart of Jesus
Heads of Dicasteries of the Roman Curia
Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Secretary of State
Archbishop Edgar Peña Parra, Sostituto for the Secretariat of State
Archbishop Paul Richard Gallagher, Secretary for the Relations with States
Cardinal Luis Antonio G. Tagle, Pro-Prefect of the Dicastery for Evangelization
Archbishop Salvatore Fisichella, Pro-Prefect of the Dicastery for Evangelization
Archbishop Víctor Manuel Fernández, future Prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith
Cardinal Konrad Krajewski, papal almoner, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Service of Charity
Archbishop Claudio Gugerotti, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Eastern Churches
Cardinal Arthur Roche, Prefect for the Dicastery for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments
Cardinal Miguel Ángel Ayuso Guixot, M.C.C.J., Prefect of the Dicastery for Interreligious Dialogue
Archbishop Robert Francis Prevost, O.S.A., Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops
Cardinal Lazarus You Heung-Sik, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Clergy
Cardinal João Braz De Aviz, Prefect of the Dicastery for Institutes of Consecrated Life And Societies of Apostolic Life
Cardinal Kevin Joseph Farrell, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Laity, Family And Life
Cardinal Marcello Semeraro, Prefect of the Dicastery of the Causes of Saints
Cardinal Kurt Koch, Prefect of the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity.
Cardinal José Tolentino De Mendonça, Prefect of the Dicastery for Culture And Education
Cardinal Michael Czerny, S.J., Prefect of the Dicastery for the Service of Integral Human Development
Archbishop Filippo Iannone, O. Carm., Prefect of the Dicastery for Legislative Texts
Paolo Ruffini, Prefect of the Dicastery for Communication
Members Nominated by Pope Francis
Cardinal Carlos Aguiar Retes, Archbishop of Mexico City, Mexico
Bishop Juan Ignacio Arrieta Ochoa De Chinchetru, Secretary of the Dicastery for Legislative Texts, Vatican City
Cardinal Jeans-Marc Aveline, Archbishop of Marseille, France
Archbishop Ignace Bessi Dogbo, Archbishop of Korhogo, Ivory Coast
Father Giuseppe Bonfrate, Italy
Bishop Dante Gustavo Braida, Bishop of La Rioja, Argentina
Archbishop Erio Castellucci, Archbishop of Modena-Nantola-Carpi, Italy
Bishop Stephen Chow Sau-Yan of Hong Kong, China
Archbishop Timothy Costelloe, S.D.B., Archbishop of Perth, Australia
Cardinal Blase Cupich, Archbishop of Chicago, USA
Cardinal Jozef De Kesel, Archbishop Emeritus of Mechelen-Brussels, Belgium
Bishop Lizardo Estrada Herrera, O.S.A., Auxiliary Bishop of Cuzco, Peru, Titular
Bishop of Ausuccura, Secretary General of the Latin American bishops’ conference (CELAM)
Archbishop Paul Dennis Etienne, Archbishop of Seattle, USA
Cardinal Juan De La Caridad García Rodríguez, Archbishop of San Cristóbal de La Habana, Cuba
Bishop Felix Genn, Bishop of Münster, Germany
Cardinal Wilton Gregory, Archbishop of Washington, D.C., USA
Cardinal Jeans-Claude Hollerich, S.I., Relator General of the Synod on Synodality, Archbishop of Luxembourg
Bishop Nicholas Gilbert Hudson, Auxiliary Bishop of Westminster, Great Britain
Archbishop Dražen Kutleša, Archbishop of Zagreb, Croatia
Cardinal Luis Francisco Ladaria Ferrer, S.J., Prefect Emeritus of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican City
Cardinal Robert Walter McElroy, Bishop of San Diego, USA
Bishop Marco Mellino, Secretary of the Council of Cardinals, Vatican City
Bishop Gjergj Meta, Bishop of Rrëshen, Albania
Bishop Lucius Andrew Muandula, Bishop of Xai-Xai, Mozambique
Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Prefect Emeritus of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican City
Bishop Antonello Mura, Bishop of Nuoro, Italy
Archbishop Robert Christopher Ndlovu, Archbishop of Harare, Apostolic Administrator of Masvingo, Zimbabwe
Bishop Manuel Nin, O.S.B., Apostolic Exarch for Byzantine Rite Catholics in Greece, Titular Bishop of Carcabia, Greece
Cardinal Seán Patrick O’malley, O.F.M. Cap., Archbishop of Boston, USA
Bishop Stefan Oster, S.D.B., Bishop of Passau, Germany
Cardinal Marc Ouellet, P.S.S., Prefect Emeritus of the Dicastery for Bishops, Vatican City
Bishop Joseph-Csaba Pál, Bishop of Timişoara, Romania
Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga, S.D.B., Archivist Emeritus of Tegucicalpa, Honduras
Archbishop Angel S. Rossi, S.J., Archbishop of Córdoba, Argentina
Archbishop Grzegorz Ryś, Archbishop of Lodz, Polonia
Archbishop Joseph Spiteri, Apostolic Nuncio to Mexico, Mexico
Bishop Radoslaw Zmitrowicz, O.M.I., Auxiliary Bishop of Kamyanets-Podilskyi, Ukraine
Enrique Alarcón García, president of the Christian Fraternity of People with Disabilities of Spain, Spagna
Father Riccardo Battocchio, Rector of the Almo Collegio Capranica in Rome, President of the Italian Theological Association, Italy
Sister Simona Brambilla, Superior General of the Consolata Missionaries, Italy
Father Luis Miguel Castillo Gualda, Rector of the Basilica of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Valencia, Spain
Father Giacomo Costa, S.J., president of the San Fedele Cultural Foundation of Milan; National Spiritual Companion of the Italian Christian Workers’ Associations, A.C.L.I., Italy
Cristina Inogés Sanz, Theologian, Spain
Father James Martin, S.J., USA
Sister Maria De Los Dolores Palencia, C.S.J.
Sister Samuela Maria Rigon, S.S.M., Superior General of the Sisters of Our Lady of Sorrows, Italy
Father Elias Royón, Vicar for Consecrated Life of the Archdiocese of Madrid, Spain
Father Antonio Spadaro, S.J., director of La Civiltà Cattolica, Italy
Sister Xiskya Lucia Valladares, Nicaragua, co-founder of Imisión, director of the Communication Department of the Centro De Enseñanza Superior Alberta Giménez (CESAG), Comillas Pontifical University
Sister María De Fátima Vieira Diniz, S.Smo.S., Superior General of the Servants of the Blessed Sacrament, Venezuela
From the Continental Assemblies (also selected by Pope Francis)
Africa
Father Vitalis Chinedu Anaehobi
Father Michel Jean-Paul Guillaud
Sister Ester Maria Lucas, F.C.
Sister Josée Ngalula, R.S.A.
Norha Kofognotera Nonterah
Father Agbonkhianmeghe Emmanuel Orobator, S.I.
Sheila Leocádia Pires
Sister Marie Solange Randrianirin, F.S.P.
Sister Solange Sahon Sia, N.D.C.
Father Rafael Simbine Junior
North America
Sami Aoun
Cynthia Bailey Manns
Catherine Clifford
Richard Coll
Chantal Desmarais
Father Ivan Montelongo
Wyatt Olivas
Julia Osęka
Sister Leticia Salazar
Linda Staudt
Latin America
Erika Sally Aldunate Loza
Jesus Alberto Briceño Cherubini
Sister Rosmery Castañeda Montoya
José Manuel De Urquidi Gonzalez
María Cristina Dos Anjos Da Conceição
Sister Gloria Liliana Franco Echeverri, O.D.N.
Sônia Gomes De Oliveira
Father Francisco Gerardo Hernández Rojas
Valeria Karina López
Néstor Esaú Velásquez Téllez
Asia
Vanessa Cheng Siu Wai
Rosalia Minus Cho Cho Tin
Father Joel Casimiro Da Costa Pinto, O.F.M.
Father Clarence Devadass
Father William La Rousse, M.M.
Father Momoko Nishimura, S.E.M.D.
Estela Padilla
Anna Teresa Peter Amandus
Sister Lalitha Thomas, S.J.T.
Father Vimal Tirimanna
Eastern Churches and the Middle East
Adel Abolouh
Father Khalil Alwan, M.L.
Saad Antti
Sister Houda Fadoul
Sister Caroline Jarjis
Rita Kouroumilian
Caroline Rafaat Awd Narouz
Claire Said
Lina Taschmann
Matthew Thomas
Europe
Aleksander Banka
Geert De Cubber
Giuseppina De Simone
Sister Anne Ferrand
Helena Jeppesen-Spuhler
Sister Anna Mirijam Kaschner, C.P.S.
Father Jan Nowotnik
Oksana Pimenova
Father Luis Manuel Romero Sanchez
Maria Sabov
Oceania
Manuel Beazley
Trudy Dantis
Renée Köhler-Ryan
John Lochowiak
Father Denis Nacorda
Kelly Paget
Sister Mary Angela Perez, R.S.M.
Father Sijeesh Pullenkunnel
Susan Sela
Grace Wrackia
Under-Secretaries of the General Secretariat of the Synod
Bishop Luis Marín De San Martín, O.S.A., Titular Bishop of Suliana
Sister Nathalie Becquart, X.M.C.J.
Members of the Ordinary Council
Cardinal Charles Maung Bo, S.D.B., Archbishop of Yangon, Myanmar
Bishop Jaime Calderón Calderón of f Tapachula, Mexico
Cardinal Joseph Coutts, Archbishop of Karachi, Pakistan
Archbishop Anthony Colin Fisher, O.P., of Sydney, Australia
Archbishop Andrew Nkea Fuanya of Bamenda, Cameroon
Cardinal Oswald Gracias, Archbishop of Bombay, India
Cardinal Gérald Cyprien Lacroix, I.S.P.X., Archbishop of Québec, Canada
Archbishop Gabriel Mbilingi, C.S.Sp., of Lubango, Angola
Cardinal Dieudonné Nzapalainga, C.S.Sp., Archbishop of Bangui, Central African Republic
Cardinal Juan José Omella Omella, Archbishop of Barcelona, Spain
Cardinal Sérgio Da Rocha, Metropolitan Archbishop of São Salvador Da Bahia, Brazil
Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, O.P., Archbishop of Wien, Austria, president of the Episcopal Conference of Austria
Cardinal Daniel Fernando Sturla Berhouet, S.D.B., Archbishop of Montevideo, Uruguay
Cardinal Joseph William Tobin, C.Ss.R., Archbishop of Newark, USA
His Beatitude Ignace Youssef Iii Younan, Syrian Patriarch of Antioch, head of the Synod of the Syrian Catholic Church, Lebanon
Cardinal Matteo Maria Zuppi, Archbishop of Bologna, Italy
Special Guests
Father Alois, Prior of the Taizé Community, France
Luca Casarini, Mediterranea Saving Humans, Italy
Monsignor Severino Dianich, theologian, Italy
Eva Fernández Mateo, Catholic Action
Margaret Karram, Work of Mary-Focolare Movement
Father Hervé Legrand, O.P., theologian, France
Monsignor Armando Matteo, secretary of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican City
Father Thomas Schwartz, Germany
Other Participants
Spiritual Assistants
Father Timothy Peter Joseph Radcliffe, O.P., Oxford Monastery, Great Britain
Mother Maria Ignazia Angelini, O.S.B., Monastery of Viboldone, Italy
Referent for the Liturgy
Father Matteo Ferrari, O.S.B. Cam., Della Comunità Di Camaldoli
Experts and Facilitators
Father Dario Vitali, Italy, Coordinator of Theological Experts
Wissam Abdo, Lebanon
Father Adelson Araújo Dos Santos, S.I., Brazil
Father Paul Béré, S.J., Burkina Faso
Sister María Luisa Berzosa González, F.I., Spain
Monsignor Philippe Bordeyne, France
Monsignor Alphonse Borras, Belgium
Father Andrea Bozzolo, S.D.B., Italy
Father Pedro Manuel Brassesco, Argentina
Father Agenor Brighenti, Brazil
loy Bueno De La Fuente, Spain
Monsignor Valentino Bulgarelli, Italy
Father Juan Jorge Bytton Arellano, S.J., Peru
Sister Daniela Adriana Cannavina, C.M.R., Colombia
Sister María Suyapa Cacho Álvarez, Honduras
Father Carlo Casalone, S.J., Italy
Sandra Chaoul, Lebanon
Sister Maria Cimperman, R.S.C.J., USA
Monsignor Piero Coda, Italy
Professor Eamon Conway, Ireland
Sandie Cornish, Australia
Father Ian Cribb, S.J., Australia
Professor Klára Antonia Csiszár, Romania
Father Hyacinthe Destivelle, O.P., France
Sister Anne Béatrice Faye, C.I.C., Ivory Coast
Paolo Foglizzo, Italy
Father Carlos Maria Galli, Argentina
Iris Gonzales, Dominican Republic
Father Gaby Alfred Hachem, Lebanon
Sister Philomena Shizue Hirota, M.M.B., Japan
Austen Ivereigh, Great Britain
Claire Jonard, Belgium
Sister Jolanta Maria Kafka, R.M.I., Poland
Christina Kheng, Singapore
Leonardo Lima Gorosito, Uruguay
Mauricio Lopez Oropeza, Ecuador
Sister Laurence Loubières, X.M.C.J., Canada
Professor Rafael Luciani, Venezuela
Father Anthony Makunde, Tanzania
Father Miguel Martin, S.J., Brazil
Father David Mc Callum, S.J., USA
Father Vito Mignozzi, Italy
Sister Paola Nelemta Ngarndiguimal, S.P.C., Chad
Susan Pascoe, Australia
Father Asaeli Raass, S.V.D., Fiji Islands
Sister Yvonne Reungoat, F.M.A., France
Father Gilles Routhier, Canada
Anna Rowlands, Great Britain
Father Ormond Rush, Australia
Father José San Jose Prisco, Spain
Monsignor Pierangelo Sequeri, Italy
Thomas Söding, Germany
Sister Nicoletta Vittoria Spezzati, A.S.C., Italy
Father Christoph Theobald, S.I., France
Erica Tossani, Italy
Monsignor Juan Fernando Usma Gómez, Colombia
Myriam Wijlens, Holland
General Secretariat of the Synod
Father Justo Ariel Beramendi Orellana
Thierry Bonaventura, Communication Manager
Father Pasquale Bua
Pietro Camilli
Alfonso Salvatore Cauteruccio
Andrea Cimino
Karina Fujisawa Simonetti
Tanyja George, M. Id.
Father Ambrogio Ivan Samus
Noemi Sanches
Monsignor Tomasz Trafny
Federica Vivian
Paola Volterra Toppano
Pedro Paulo Oliveira Weizenmann
Sister Marie-Kolbe Zamora, O.S.F.
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Ofcourse the Franciscan-Vatican-spokepeople would like to find a place to hide to keep quiet. That’s exactly what happens when Truth is revealed to previously have been made a lie. Liars will squirm, worm, and slither within their swamp, where it remains perpetually dark. God have mercy.
You nailed it.
I’ll add this only makes Bergoglio look worse. If that’s possible.
The trads are making a full-court press to try to coerce Pope Leo into giving them back their TLM. I think they should just go to the SSPX. If they won’t accept the reformed liturgy, we don’t need nor want them. There have to be standards and limits. The TLM definitely is related to anti-Vatican 2 sentiment. That’s what motivated Lefebvre. If he hadn’t seceded from the Church to continue celebrating the TLM, we wouldn’t be having this conversation; the TLM wouldn’t exist anywhere. The TLM is now inherently separatist and isolationist, and it foments an anti-Vatican 2 mindset.
So much falsehood in Donald’s statements. I know a HUGE number of people, many associated with the John Paul II Institutes and MANY other places, that accept and study the documents of Vatican II yet also love the Latin Mass. Some people think there are only two groups – the post Vatican II people who think an entirely new Church came into being in the 1960s, or those who wish us to be frozen in the 16th century. There are SO MANY theologians, living and dead, such as John Paul II, Benedict XVI, David Schindler, Tracey Roland, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Larry Chapp, and scores and scores more who accept Vatican II, development of doctrine, understand the hermeneutic of continuity, etc. They understand that as Aquinas had to deal with Aristotle, so the current Church had to deal with Heidegger etc. We have NO INTEREST AT ALL in schism. People really embarrass themselves by not acknowledging these theologians, saints, popes, etc. As for “we don’t want them”, who are you to kick people out of the Church? Do you feel the same way about devotees of OTHER older rites, such as the Maronite or Dominican (I went to one of their masses a few weeks ago), or newer but different ones like the Anglican Ordinariate? Who gets to decide that the Mass attended by everyone who went to Vatican II, every day, and all the great saints and theologians throughout history, should now be thrown into the dustbin of history? What foments division are those who throw hatred at the Mass of the Ages. There is no reason for it; there are many forms of the Roman Rite and this hatred is obscene.
“There have to be standards and limits.” You attend the Novus Ordo and can actually say this? That is hilarious.
His standards and limits.
As for me, I grew up in the Latin Mass till 17. I was so happy to see it go and not have to depend on my Missal for translation despite having a year of church Latin. I like watching the priest’s face to know the extent of his personal passion for Christ especially at the moment after communion when he is cleaning the fragments of Host. Is it a labor of love or a nuisance? These nuances bleed through the priest’s countenance.
I like taking non-Catholics to Mass to dispel their crazy notions of Catholicism. Can’t do it successfully if the Mass is in Latin.
“I like watching the priest’s face”
It’s not about you.
“know the extent of his personal passion for Christ especially at the moment after communion when he is cleaning the fragments of Host”
This is an astounding absurd take. What if that priest just received bad news day before-that a family member was seriously ill or dying? What if he’s in pain from some chronic ailment?
We shouldn’t be conducting the Mass to provide for the rash judgments of the Rebozos in the pews.
Are you aware that Scott Hahn, one of the greatest living lay evangelists and a Protestant convert himself, attends the Traditional Latin Mass? I see him there almost every week (unless I am attending a Byzantine Divine Liturgy, which I do from time to time). I also grew up with the TLM, and everything you have said about it here is malarkey.
Donald: A friend of mine once had a favored expression. It went like this: “Hate destroys the hater.”
“If they won’t accept the reformed liturgy, we don’t need nor want them.”
Who are you trying to say is “we?” Sounds like Donald thinks he is the arbitrator of the Mass.
So, I guess what Pope Benedict XVI wrote in his letter accompanying the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum: “What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden or even considered harmful.” means nothing to you? 🤦♂️
Your point of view on those who worship using the TLM under Summorum Pontificum separates yourself from the judgement of the Synod of Bishops.
How can a Mass that is more reverent, possibly be considered divisive?
“What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden or even considered harmful.” Certainly does ring True.
Not all of a sudden entirely forbidden, but step by step gradually and entirely phased out because it has been supplanted by a reformed version of the Mass by order of Vatican II and decree of Pope Paul VI.
Vatican II and Pope Paul ordered no such thing.
There is a schism which is vertical: the refusal of union with the Holy Father. Most people attached to the TLM do not do this. Some do.
There is also a schism which is horizontal: the refusal of union with others who are united with the Holy Father. Those who refuse union with those attached to the TLM do this.
This a bizarre comment. If you were in Tim Kaine’s Virginia parish, where the staunchly pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ+ “catholic” politician received a standing ovation from parishioners, would you even WANT to be in “horizontal communion” with all the people around you? I don’t have any doubt that the statistical studies are accurate: 70% of those who attend the Novus Ordo do not even believe in the Real Presence in the Eucharist. I can assure you that would NOT be the result of any polling in a TLM parish.
How would being in union with a Pope hostile to the Catholic religion constitute being in union with the Catholic religion?
Vatican Press Office secretary Bruni speaks for Cdl Arthur Roche, prefect Dicastery for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. That assures it was run by the Cardinal, who has full knowledge of Traditionis Custodes because it was issued from his office likely written at least in part perhaps with assistance from Cdl Victor Fernandez prefect DDF. A typical snow job to protect themselves and the originator Pope Francis.
Can we reasonably presume this brief write off was not brought to Pope Leo’s attention? He’s the one who has ultimate say on how to deal with, not simply the authenticity of Diane Montagna’s collage of excerpts – rather with the crux of the matter. How does Pope Leo wish to address this in context of Cdl Burke’s request? Sadly, the entire snow job write off scenario apparently answers the question.
meiron, you said it best so all I can do is repeat what you’ve written, “Ofcourse the Franciscan-Vatican-spokepeople would like to find a place to hide to keep quiet. That’s exactly what happens when Truth is revealed to previously have been made a lie. Liars will squirm, worm, and slither within their swamp, where it remains perpetually dark. God have mercy.”
In fairness to Pope Leo perhaps he had no choice, assuming he was consulted except to agree to the Press Office secretary’s dismissive explanation. He may on his own time frame an address to the matter more favorably toward the TLM. An indication may be the recent announcement that the Rupnik case judges have been selected.
If that were the case, why didn’t Hagen-Leo just tell his Vatican flacks to stand down and be silent? Instead, it is Hagen-Leo who is silent while his flacks deploy clouds of Bergoglian blather to cover their posteriors as they “squirm, worm, and slither within their swamp.”
That’s been running through my mind too indicated in my initial comment.
Indeed, when a pope, or one who purports to be, is discovered in the act of dissembling, it is not merely a personal failing, or a private stumble in the moral dark. No, it is a cataclysm. I fear for the fledgling soul, barely past the threshold of belief, such a revelation is often a crushing blow. How can one trust in the divine, when its earthly shepherd proves himself a charlatan? The tender shoots of nascent faith, so carefully nurtured, are not merely bruised; they are torn from the very soil of conviction. The young believer, once perhaps drawn by the promise of steadfastness and truth, is left with a gaping wound where his faith once resided, a wound that festers with cynicism and doubt.
Nor are the faithful veterans immune, those seasoned followers who have weathered many a storm of doubt and celebrated countless triumphs of the spirit. For them, the lie from a leader is not a sudden, fatal strike, but rather a slow, insidious erosion. It is akin to a crack appearing in the very foundation of a grand cathedral they have long revered. Each falsehood, each twisting of the truth, however small, drips like acid upon the stone of their enduring faith, weakening its integrity, making them question the very edifice they have spent decades defending. The bedrock of their conviction, once seemingly unshakeable, begins to crumble, and with it, the quiet confidence that once sustained them. For if the very stewards of truth cannot be trusted, then what truth remains? It is a question that gnaws at the soul, a bitter fruit born of betrayal.
So let it be known, and let it be stated with the utmost clarity: the lie, from the mouth of a pope, is not a minor transgression. It is a betrayal of the highest order, an act that not only defiles the speaker but, far more grievously, wounds the very heart of the faithful, both old and new. It is a deed that, far from building the Kingdom, actively dismantles it, brick by painstaking brick.
Brilliant and even poetic analysis, Michael B. Thank you.
Alas , we find that a pope is merely a man after all. It’s like pulling back the curtain and finding the true wizard of Oz. Is it relief or disappointment? Are we so uncomfortable because he looks too much like us?
Popes have “looked like us” since St.Peter. Plus ca change.
If Pope Leo XIV allows the war against the Vetus Ordo Mass to continue, then that would reveal a lot of very bad things about his turn as Pontiff.
“Matteo Bruni…said…the leaked information ‘presumably concerns part of one of the documents on which the decision [to restrict the Latin Mass] is based.’”
So we are led to believe that there were other documents—presumably with more compelling reasons to restrict the Latin Mass—which we are not privy to. Sure! So where are these other documents!?
Oh what a tangled web we weave– when first we begin to deceive!!
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we “practice” to deceive.
– Sir Walter Scott –
The irony of the whole matter is that the very people who decry the Church becoming more democratic are now
complaining that it not more so! 🤭
The irony of the whole matter is that the very people who proclaim the Church to be a listening, “synodal” Church, reaching out to those on the “margins,” now show themselves to be malevolent totalitarians demanding conformity. There. I fixed it for you.
Nicely done, Stephan. You’re absolutely right.
Synodal schmynodal.
Stephan Williams has decisively answered “Br. Jaques” and his observations about irony.
Oh what a tangled weave they will continue to weave; as we speak, The True Church Of Jesus The Christ is illuminating the darkness of the counterfeit magisterium, which cannot overcome The Way, The Truth, and The Light (Life) of Perfect Divine Eternal Love Incarnate, Our Savior, Jesus The Christ, although it will continue to do some serious damage , if this counterfeit magisterium is not charitably anathema for The Salvation of Souls. Division is not of The Holy Ghost, nor is the counterfeit magisterium of The Holy Ghost, as it serves to accommodate those who deny The Sanctity and Dignity of the marital act within The Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, and The Sanctity and Dignity of human life from the moment of conception to natural death. Without the use of The Charitable Anathema, Instituted by Christ for The Salvation of Souls, this counterfeit magisterium will continue to deny The Unity Of The Holy Ghost, and is thus anti Filioque and anti Pope.
“You cannot be My Disciples if you do not Abide In My Word.” – The Charitable Anathema of Jesus The Christ.
https://www.catechism.cc/articles/Pope-Paul-IV-Ex-Apostolatus-Officio.htm
Is it possible to have a copy of the Holy Mass in latin. I sudied in school where we daly Mass and must answer in latin. Now I have forgoten many parts of them and I will appreciate very much to get a copy. Regards.
Jorge, you can order a Latin Missae on Amazon.
Traditional Latin Mass (red booklet)
Latin/English for $12.60
If you’re OK with an online version: https://extraordinaryform.org/index.html
Mateo Bruni is speaking falsely, whatever his “intentions” might be.
Dianne Montagna has disclosed the conclusion of the majority of Bishops: Summorum Pontificicum was ‘a success,’ and waging a new-liturgy-war against the Vetus Ordo “would cause more harm than good.”
Link:
https://substack.com/inbox/post/167259174?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
Therefore, the Pontiff Francis and His Eminence Roche are caught in their lie.
Reject “the ideological lie,” and liberate tradition, or continue to decay unto death.
Only those who are disordered are going to sacrifice themselves for a lie…
Is it true that only 14 pages were leaked out of some 220? Where are the other 200 pages? What do they say?
The 14 pages includes the summary (“Overall Assessment”)of the survey report, similar to an executive summary, along with a collection of quotations from tne survey respondents. (Not just 14 random pages). The Vatican has not released the full report, but the Overall Assessment should contain all of the key points. If the full report says something different, that would be unusual, but the ball is in the Vatican’s court. They can release the full report whenever they want to..
You can read the Overall Assessment on Diane Montagna’s Substack, in the links at the bottom of her first article (there’s a followup). I just searched for “Diane Montagna Substack” and found it quickly. I always like to read these documents, when they are available, rather than relying on bits and pieces in articles and posts.
As in the Paul Newman movie “Cool Hand Luke” (1967): “What we have here is a failure to communicate!”
Back in the 1960s and 1970s, liturgical innovations poisoned the well on the legitimate reform of THE Liturgy. Clown masses and masses of clowns. In the eyes of many and in many locales, the Novus Ordo today still reminds of such early experimentation.
Three questions:
FIRST, is the symmetrical comparison no longer between TLM and Novus Ordo, but rather between the Altar and now the synodal Roundtable? Why are we even reminded that another symmetrical comparison is not between the Bible and the Qur’an, but between the incarnate Jesus Christ (“the Word made flesh”) and the Qur’an (“the word made Book”)?
SECOND, might another symmetrical comparison be between early mismanagement of the liturgical reform (1963) and more recent mismanagement of the sexual abuse crisis? What did Sacrosanctum Concilium actually say about liturgical reform? How about this:
n. 40 (1) “The competent territorial ecclesiastical authority mentioned in Art. 22, 2, must, in this matter, carefully and prudently consider which elements from the traditions and culture of individual peoples might appropriately be admitted into divine worship. Adaptations which are judged to be useful or necessary should then be submitted to the Apostolic See, by whose consent they may be introduced [!].” https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html Can’t remember much about submittals and consents!
THIRD, today, how for the Church to leaven itself ever more as communio and the “ecclesial assembly” around and then beyond the Altar? Instead of as a Roundtable too much replacing Altar—the sacramental Real Presence (CCC 1374)?
SUMMARY: Councils and Synods are what the Church DOES, not what the Church IS.
Perhaps Pope Francis felt a need or saw a need to emphasize and promote a human virtue of getting along with others -as that seemed to him and certain others; however it would still make no sense to enjoin human virtues or any particular human virtue in a synodalism?
Synodalism corrupts the Church’s sacred character, consecrated and lay, cloistered and parochial, active and passive, teaching and apostolic.
My experience with people who lie is that it’s unwise to trust anything they say. The best predictor of future behavior is one’s past actions.
According to Francisca Javiera del Valle in her tome About the Holy Spirit, Christ on the Cross was mediating with the Father to win the Holy Spirit for us, at some moment purely as man when he was moved to cry out about his abandonment. The Father gave answer and it was only then that Christ would admit -surrender,- “It is consummated”, the work upon the Sacrifice.
Well now, just what are some of these priests talking about, sometimes!
In Bible study I was told that Christ was speaking the first verses of Psalm 22. You need to read the entire psalm to see how it applies to Christ’s Crucifixion. I was also told that the Last Supper was an incomplete Passover Seder. Four cups of wine are consumed during the Passover Seder. The third cup, the Cup of Blessing, was used when the Institution of the Eucharist was enacted. The Last Supper then ended before Christ drank the fourth cup. The common wine vinegar that Christ was given on a sponge when He said “I thirst” was the fourth cup. I’ve heard it called the Cup Of Consummation. The Last Supper and Christ’s Passion and Death were one continuous event. This was Christ’s hour.
That’s in keeping with Scott Hahn’s take on the Passover.
But Jesus gave us the New Covenant of the One Cup of His Blood.
It’s possible to suffer through many “cups” more than “4” or “5” and still be in the Communion. Also to suffer a mere “2 cups” yet have the fullness of Communion. Or suffer an inexplicable sudden death with no “cup”.
Many “cups” can vie but Christ focused us on the One.
GregB, a guy could have 40, 50 even 80 cups of suffering and it would account for nothing beyond the One Cup of Salvation shared in Our Lord Jesus Christ.
I believe we should be helping Hahn get away from the Spectral Tru_k-Lo_d of Cups that is stalking him around everywhere. At CWR I have made some entries about that already. See my comments in the first 2 links below; in particular the first one on St. Jerome, Elias Galy October 2, 2024 at 3:10 pm.
In another place in CWR I mentioned that following on the Christ Event, Judaism tried adapting experiences from during that time, into its own ways, to try to overtake it. This would be to maintain interest for the Jews but also “outshine” and diminish and refute the Christ Event and secure “Jewish supremacy”.
See my comment in the third link on Valtorta, Elias Galy September 23, 2021 at 6:36 am, first two paragraphs.
Protestants are reacting to Hahn’s “4 cups” in their own instincts, see the third link Hahn’s Hersey: The Four Cups? at THIRD MILL . ORG. In this example of objections they accuse Hahn of heresy over necessity of Eucharist, which of course is quite wrong; however they raise a number of other reasonable points. Among the points coming up is a reference to evidence that “four cups” only appeared in Passover tradition from the 2nd Century A.D.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2024/09/30/about-that-brilliant-and-difficult-saint-jerome-of-stridon/
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2019/04/18/when-was-the-last-supper/
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2021/09/14/a-monument-to-pseudo-religiosity-a-case-against-the-poem-of-the-man-god/
https://thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/45629
I was an altar boy in the 1940’s. We said the Confiteor (I Confess) in Latin at the start of Mass. We knew the words in English.
It was a good start (I Confess) at the start of Mass.
The words were changed in Vatican 11 and the Mass then encountered
many changes (not for the better). Some charlatans and others raised
havoc with the Mass.
It is time (2025) for rebirth of the original Mass.
Look, when you have people like Peter Kwasniewski publishing books and articles and making speeches that the novus ordo Mass needs to be abolished and the church return to celebrating only the TLM (as it was before 1955, no less), then trad world has a big problem with the modern church. That’s the root of their love of the TLM and their hatred of the novus ordo and of Pope Francis: they don’t like modernity and want to go back in time.
Mr. Wright if an individual expresses those views they speak for themselves. They do not speak for everyone who attends the TLM. Nor for someone like me who visits it.
Seems, Mr. Wright, that you have insight into the inner workings and motivations of just about everyone who thinks differently than you. Question: Do you spend much time examining your own mind and heart?
These days many aee inclined to weigh the merits of the men who have most recently occupied the Chair of Peter. I have a challenge to all of us. Think of the recent Popes in terms of which ones would have made a good husband to a wife and a good father to his children. I would assert that only a man who would have made a good husband and father is worthy to be Pope (Abba, Father). As a corollary to this challenge, think of whichcrecent Popes you would have liked to have had as YOUR biological father. I’d suggest applying the same standard to your bishop and your pastor.